The Official Trashtalking Baseball Thread...

[fischfan13]

As a huge Mets fan I have to say this...
Brad Lidge was robbed. Lidge was the NL MVP and you cannot tell me different. He was the reason that the Phils won the division. He was the reason for everything that happened. What was he, 42 of 42 during the regular season in saves? Imagine if he had a human-like season and went 90%...then he would have had 38 saves, the Phillies end up one game behind the Mets and never make the playoffs or World Series.

[YoungAquaticPhotos]

I agree Bill! A lot of Phillie fans were pissed of because Howard didn't win it but Lidge was the one that should have. Plus he did not blow any saves in the playoffs either! I think it was 49 saves all total. That was awesome!
Good luck next year Phillies with already Chase Utley having hip surgery and will be out til June next year.

[eggzackary]

I knew it wouldn't be long before this thread turned up....Play Ball!!

[fischfan13]

I knew it wouldn't be long before this thread turned up....Play Ball!!

I was waiting for ya!

[eggzackary]

Well this isn't trash talking but......While doing some x-mas shopping at the Carousel Mall in Syracuse this afternoon, a friend of mine (who happens to be a huge Met fan) and myself stopped in to the Cooperstown Connection store to drool over all the memorabilia. To our surprise Dwight Gooden was there hanging out and signing autographs. We got to meet him and talk for a bit. He couldn't have been a nicer guy to us. It was the last thing i expected to happen on a cold day in Syracuse.

[fischfan13]

Dwight was on a Mets telecast early last season for the first time in years...and I mean years.
I would have gone to meet him...even though he once wore a Yankees uniform.


Well this isn't trash talking but......While doing some x-mas shopping at the Carousel Mall in Syracuse this afternoon, a friend of mine (who happens to be a huge Met fan) and myself stopped in to the Cooperstown Connection store to drool over all the memorabilia. To our surprise Dwight Gooden was there hanging out and signing autographs. We got to meet him and talk for a bit. He couldn't have been a nicer guy to us. It was the last thing i expected to happen on a cold day in Syracuse.

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

Now all I want for christmas is Derek Lowe and mark texiera, What's wrong with buying the pennant??? The METSIES are lucky the nl is short for nomoney loser's. That put's them at the top.

[fischfan13]

I hope the Mets grab Lowe. An innings-eater is the first priority and Lowe averages over 7 innings per start.
My other wish is that the Yankees are dumb enough to pay Oliver Perez 14million per year.

[greyd]

Sorry but so far 2009 is shaping up to be another joyous 1 for us phillies fans. The mets go out and sign k-rod (who just choked off 2 out of 3 games against boston in the pressure packed alds) and putz (can't Wait to hear the words thrown his way as he warms in the bullpen in citizens bank park) and are already proclaiming themselves the team to beat in the nl east and nl. Soon the sportswriters will do the same thing which will aggravate and push the phillies team, their loving fans of course and the rest of the nl east. Wright and reyes will take another september off. I can already hear the mets fans with their 'the rest of the division laid down for the phillies but played the mets hard'.

Even the nationals hate the low class in game celebrations of reyes. Personally I cannot stand any of the players with their stupid hands to the sky garbage after a hit or run scored, my team included. Rollins does that a lot, Howard will linger a few secs on some of his homeruns which I imagine annoys pitchers but not the garbage that reyes does. He should be more like Wright and just run around the bases.

I like that omar has greatly improved their bullpen but chemistry is still the biggest problem on the mets as it generally is with the yankees buying up free agents. The mest need a player that has already won a world series and kicks the entire team in the rear end when they need it. The phillies didn't get that kind of attitude about the game until after aaron rowand showed up. Lowe is an innings eater but he didn't do the dodgers much good in the nlcs games he pitched in.

[fischfan13]

Lowe will do more good during the regular season than the post season. He would help out the bullpen by pitching 7 or 8 innings per game...another reason why I do not want Perez back. I am not sold on the Mets next year until they get some more starting pitching. Remember, the Mets kept up with the Phillies all year long...you MUST worry about them.

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

I can't believe the YANKS didn't go for LOWE for the inning's eating the inning's eater first !!!!

[eggzackary]

Now batting NY Yankee 1st baseman Mark Teixeira!!


http://http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3790141 (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3790141)

Christmas is early:partay::partay:

[fischfan13]

So what did this buy you...2nd or 3rd place.
Tampa still has better pitching.
You really cannot believe that Burnett is going to help. He is so injury prone it is not funny. Who is going to be able to play the OF? Catch?
Joba? Start or relieve?

[6stang9]

I'm hoping 3rd place.

[AlishanAS]

I'm hoping 3rd place.

For the Red Sox maybe. :grin:

Stang - sorry to hear about all of your fish losses .When did your power finally come on?

Are you attending the PVAS auction to replenish your stock? You can also try a certain auction on April 4. :smilewinkgrin:

[eggzackary]

So what did this buy you...2nd or 3rd place.
Tampa still has better pitching.
You really cannot believe that Burnett is going to help. He is so injury prone it is not funny. Who is going to be able to play the OF? Catch?
Joba? Start or relieve?

No doubt there is still alot of unanswered questions at this point. Right now i want to see if they can reach a billion dollars:jawdrop: spent this off season.
I've never been a fan of Burnett, we'll see what happens. Joba needs to stay in the pen, Mariano ain't gonna last forever.

[fischfan13]

We rarely ever agree, but this time you hit the nail on the head!

[fischfan13]

One month until Pitchers and Catchers!

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/tom_verducci/04/10/weather.april/t1_snow.jpg

[fischfan13]

28 more days until the Mets first exhibition game!
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/original/citifield_view_hp-thumb.jpg

[deadhead]

Wow a baseball thread! Being a diehard met and jet fan i am use to disapointment but i am hoping!!!! Hats off to the phils.....they deserved to win the division. If omar wasn't so cheap and keeping our deadbeat prospects maybe just maybe we could have gotten a real guy for our bullpen instead of picking someone off the scrap heap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well anyway our bullpen is set...however we need another starter and manny!!!!!!!!!!!

[fischfan13]

Kev, I have been yelling since last year that we need more starting pitching.
Some more arms that can pitch 7 or 8 innings every time out would put less load on our bullpen.
Maybe George Theodore can come back to patrol (?) LF.
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pics/george_theodore_autograph.jpg

[misterted]

even though he once wore a Yankees uniform.


Oh that was such a swipe.:grhair:
So much bitterness...come on....they won the Championship in 1986 because some putz let the ball go between his legs. Be happy that he didn't make that play.

[fischfan13]

Hey, you over there with that little fishbowl in your living room...

If the ball does not go thru Buckners legs AND he makes the play then the score would have been tied, but Mookie would have beaten it out anyway.:smilewinkgrin:

[misterted]

Yeah but that was the momentum changer.
Had he made the play the Red Sox would have won it.

Anyway, I just wanted to talk for a moment about "buying" the championship.
If this concept was true then wouldn't the Yankees have been world Champions for every year since 2000 also?
I mean, they have all that money......

I really hate it when people say that. It makes no sense.
I remember people saying that about the 1994 NY Rangers Chanpionship team also.

[AlishanAS]

Kev, I have been yelling since last year that we need more starting pitching.
Some more arms that can pitch 7 or 8 innings every time out would put less load on our bullpen.
Maybe George Theodore can come back to patrol (?) LF.
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pics/george_theodore_autograph.jpg

The Stork. Brings back memories of such luminaries as Butch Huskey and Alex Ochoa.

[deadhead]

Yes chemistry is one thing the phillies have over the mets. However i disagree about the players. I mean it is bad enough we have to listen to jimmy rolllins and cole hamels but mike schmidt please!!!!!!!!!!!!! He should concentrate on his cheessteak franchise! They both trash talk. Problem is the phillies back it up! A lot of players look up in the sky and wear their hat funny. Maybe we are just use to the old days when it was a game not a buisness. I like howard and i really like utley. Both great players in my opinion. Moyer too. He is a real professional.
I disagree with you on the bullpen. If i remember once the mets almost beat lidge one game. He had a great season no doubt. I think that krod and putz are the best one two punch in baseball.
That is not enough by far. Yes we need to get another pitcher. I would rather have sheets than perez. The only good thing about perez is he beats the phils and the yanks lol!!! He can drive you nuts though.
We also need a bat. Ibanez was a nice pick up for you guys.
If the mets get a starter and a bat then it should be another fight to the finish.
Maybe if we have a 4 game lead with three to go we might win this time lol!!!!
Best of luck..

[deadhead]

Bill you are so right......lowe would have been perfect. Perez walks the ballpark! To be honest i would rather have sheets than perez. He just drives me friggin crazy!!!!! Stork lol!!! We signed him again didn't we?????

[fischfan13]

How about Aaron Heilman?
The Mariners traded him today, before he even threw one pitch for them.

[deadhead]

how about aaron heilman?
The mariners traded him today, before he even threw one pitch for them.

tells u something don't it lol!!!!

[fischfan13]

It really was an incredible season for the phillies in a number of ways. Lidge was a huge part of it and so was the defense behind him to save a few of his scarier saves. Howard having a monster september and last but not least zero injuries to the starting pitching staff other than sending meyers down for a month and sitting eaton down forever. Eaton may be the mvp for not pitching in september. He really isn't that bad of a pitcher I think he just loses concentration or something and starts throwing up meatballs.

The mets really need to address the clashing personalities they have on that team and someone has to go or just get through to reyes and a couple others to just play and keep it low key. If guys like drysdale still were around to face him the guy would be in a head cast from all the pitches coming in high. Talented guy but he's a putz.

I don't say this to offend but they really have choked for 3 years straight. They were the better team against the cardinals in 2006, the whole team kinda choked in 07 and mainly the bullpen did it in 08 although personally I think their starting pitching wasn't that great either when they were needed and wright and reyes stopped hitting in september and I don't see any reason on earth to pay beltran his money, they shoulda signed rowand instead. I think beltran is a big reason they don't win. If they had the beltran that played for the astros in the playoffs it would be a different story each of the 3 years.

Beltran is the reason why the Mets did not make the playoffs in '05. But have you seen his numbers after that season? Have you seen the defense that he has played?
The Mets have choked the last two seasons, agree, but they did not choke against the Cards.
The starting pitching, IMO, is the reason for losing last season. The starters could not carry the team as they should have in clutch situations.
I stick with my opinion...Brad Lidge was the NL MVP. If he converts 90% of his saves the Phillies are not in the playoffs. He converted 100% during the regular season and post season.
As for Reyes, I couldn't care how much he dances, this kid is a superstar.
Wright? He was the one guy offensively who bothered me, especially at the end of the season.

[joe_jaskot]

You can blame the starters. You can blame the relievers. You still have to score runs. Blame the hitters (or the non-hitters). LOL!

[greyd]

Anyone have an address for me to mail some goodies to mets players? I want to send over a couple of cases of austin and keebler peanutbutter crackers so they can get plenty of protein for the long season.

[AlishanAS]

WOW. He went from AROD to AFRAUD to AROID in a couple of weeks.

[fischfan13]

<sarcasm dripping>

Maybe Madonna can verify the claims.

[Zippo]

Madonna? Can she even verify she's in this world?:bandit:

[deadhead]

Funny? Another Yankee!!!!

[fischfan13]

http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/wenn21753852__oPt.jpg

[greyd]

It's sad that 100 plus guys failed in 2003. If it wasn't that the phils just won the world series I'd back off on following baseball again like I did after the strike in 94. Sadly what got me back again was following the steroid induced homerun race which doesn't diminish how incredible it was to watch night after night.

[fischfan13]

Phillies made a smart move the other day, locking in Howard to a three year deal.
Baseball is something that I can never leave. For the most part I have always blamed the owners for the problems that have followed baseball.

[greyd]

Speaking of owners, I think the wilpon's lost a ton more money than they are admitting to. After the human putz and krod signings they stopped spending $ other than locking up maine, perez and a few others already on the team. They still need another starter and a left fielder. They should probably be looking at pudge too because I have read a few times that schneider is a clubhouse problem although I like him very much as a player.

[fischfan13]

What Starter?
I agree we need more starting pitching, but don't you think that the Braves spent way too much on Lowe?

[greyd]

Lowe was the best other guy out there all along. I thought burnett got way more than he was worth. The mets lowballed lowe probably to see what he really wanted and he got the money out of the braves. The braves may be quite good in 09 if the japanese guy is a quality starter and lowe is healthy and no more crapping around with hampton.

I was hoping the phils would have signed lowe but they couldn't consider paying him way more than hamels was signed for.

As for the mets I'm not convinced that santana is worth his money. Other than 1 late game in the year he wasn't pitching like he had a killer instinct for a playoff race. I'm a little surprised they resigned delgado. I always thought he was a steroid guy and I can't see how he can have another killer half year like he did last year to get the mets out of the 7 games back rut.

[fischfan13]

Lowe is not worth the money that the Braves gave him. He was not giving the Mets a discount, and in the long run the Mets got a bargain with Oliie Perez.
Santana is worth every dime.
The Mets would have had to give Delgado a few million for a buyout, so he is not costing them much...but I was hoping that they would have traded him during the off season.
No matter what, the Fillies will not repeat and the Braves will be awful.

[greyd]

So you are saying the mets are the most talented team and will win the nl east in 2009? And what has happened in the offseason that makes you think they will overcome the failures the mets have displayed in the past 2 seasons, 3 if you count losing to a clearly inferior cardinals team with a barely .500 record? I think the mets were the best team in the nl for 2006 but the trio of wright reyes and beltran does not come through in pressure situations year after year.

I'm not being a jerk I just fail to see what improvements the mets have made in their team makeup which is their main problem each year. Mets fans were on top of the world when they got wagner, he didn't do it, going to the ws when they got santana, he didn't win 20 or get them in to the playoffs and now k-rod, the guy who just choked off 2 games in a high pressure alds against boston (without manny and without ortiz being able to hit) is the answer?
I do think the marlins, mets, braves and phillies are all plus .500 teams this year and when things are that close anything can happen to put one over the group. I have no idea if the phillies will have the fire they need to win the division for a 3rd straight year but they do have an excellent team even if a few guys did things last year they won't do this year.

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

WOW. He went from AROD to AFRAUD to AROID in a couple of weeks.And coming in october: AWORLDCHAMPIONfraud steroidhead. Go Aroid !!!

[fischfan13]

Doug, this is the way that I look at it...
The Phillies did not improve.
Lidge will not go 42 for 42 in saves.

[AlishanAS]

If the Mets had K-Rod and Putz last year they would have won the division by 5-8 games, Lidge or not. Santana would have won 22 or so games since the cowpen blew so many of his starts.
If they both pitch the way they have in the past the Mets will be competetive in the division even with stiffs like Castillo and sure outs like Schneider. A lot will depend on Ryan Church overcoming his concussions. He was having an all star 1st third when he crashed.
And Met Killer Burrell is gone. I don't think the Fillies will miss him that much against other teams

[joe_jaskot]

If my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle. Woulda, Shoulda, Coulda. The Mets chocked two years in a row.

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

The yankee's got no wins from three young starters, lost their number one pitcher, they're catcher that batted 340 the year before and still ended up with the exact record as the met's home and away last year now thats Amazin !!!

[fischfan13]

The Yankees had Mariano...the Mets had Heilman and finished with the same record!:grenade:

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

You must be tired, or it would have read , you had mariano and blew 75 million more. Get back on your game LOL

[AlishanAS]

Joe -I think they "chocked" two years ago. Last year they lost to a better team.

The Mets must have really hurt you one year since you proclaim yourself an ex Mets fan.

Are you still paying the vig??:smilewinkgrin:

[YoungAquaticPhotos]

This weekend the Mets can start getting ready to Chock again like the last two years! Three times a charm!

[greyd]

I like you guys but you met fans are delusional. The phillies have improved over 2008, ibanez will not be as streaky as burrell was and will not strike out 130 times. Burrell has not done much of anything against the mets the past 2 years. Werth in right is an improvement over jenkins/werth and ruiz seems to have found out that he can hit. The bullpen is a little stronger as is the bench. The phillies are better than the mets position by position every where except 3b and maybe starting pitching. Since the mets don't really have a # 4 or 5 starter yet I still give the starting pitching nod to the phillies.

The mets and their fans seem to be blaming their horrid september play on heilman, shoenweis and Not having wagner. I guarantee you that the mets would Not have made the playoffs with a healthy wagner down the stretch. He screwed you guys against the cardinals in 2006 and he screwed the phillies out of the playoffs in key games against the astros the 2 years before.

The mets have not changed out enough starters to get the losing attitude out of the team. The core group of guys that couldn't hit their weight in the pressure of september are all still there. If anything they should have kept steroid boy tatis. The mets will win when it doesn't count in 2009 and when and if the phillies or braves put pressure on them in september the mets core group of guys will revert back to their own personalities and fail. Gillick knew more than anyone else that ran the phillies and dumped abreu for nothing yet Still improved the team to where they became a playoff team by subtraction. Attitudes have to permanently change before positive change can affect the team.

[AlishanAS]

Doug - they would not have had to worry about September if their bullpen had not been horrible all year and that includes Heilman and Wagner.
This whole chemistry thing is a bunch if crap. Did they 86 Mets have chemistry? They hated each other. The Yankees of the mid -late seventies? They were at each others' throats and won on talent.
It had nothing to do with chemistry, it had to do with performing.

[greyd]

Spring training has begun. Just what is in the water that some of the more vocal mets fans drink??? Threads on the mets message board that every mets pitcher is better than the corresponding phillies pitcher, and the mets lineup is better than the phillies' ?? beltran is better than howard? wright better than utley?? Maybe it's not water maybe it's thunderbird wine.
I realize that I am biased but there is not a single player on the mets that I would take over the corresponding phillies player. That goes for hamels over santana, lidge over k-fr(au)od rollins over reyes, victorino over mole head and even feliz over wright based on how they all played in pressure situations and in the world series and Especially in september! I do think wright is the best hitter on the mets but he has been a no show in the past 2 septembers.
Just wanted to get you mets fans' motor started for a nice 2009 season!!!
:grenade:

[AlishanAS]

You won't have to worry about Utley for a bit. I guess on crutches I think he would still cover more ground than Castillo.

But Hamels over Santana and Feilx over Wright? Stop hiting the Wild Turkey so early in the morning Doug. Better hope the geritol still works for that 50 year old pitcher and Myers doesn't pull a Chris Brown on his wife.

[eggzackary]

I like you guys but you met fans are delusional.

LOL:rofl::rofl:

[greyd]

But Hamels over Santana and Feilx over Wright? [/COLOR]

C'mon I have to wake you mets fans up and do my public service to let you know that baseball is starting up again! After all, your team's season ended Way before the last game of the regular season so that is quite some time ago. Ooooooh thank you remember to tip your waitresses!

Actually I would take Hamels over Santana. They are similar type pitchers with their dominant pitch being a killer changeup paired with a better than average fastball. Hamels is 25 and on the lanky side, Santana is 30 and statistically has less peak performance years left in him than hamels does (or potentially could). This is Hamel's 3rd year in the nl while it will be Satan's err I mean Santana's 2nd and statistically the hitters tend to catch up to a pitcher in the 2nd year he's been in the new league. Wright is the best offensive guy on the mets and deserves a better group of guys around him. $18.5 mil per year for mole head??? He should hit 320, 35 hr's 120 rbi's and 40 steals for that kinda money. Instead with the exception of hr's and rbi's he barely beat out Victorino's numbers in 2008.

[AlishanAS]

I don't care what they pay them. It's not my money.

[fischfan13]

Spring training has begun. Just what is in the water that some of the more vocal mets fans drink??? Threads on the mets message board that every mets pitcher is better than the corresponding phillies pitcher, and the mets lineup is better than the phillies' ?? beltran is better than howard? wright better than utley?? Maybe it's not water maybe it's thunderbird wine.
I realize that I am biased but there is not a single player on the mets that I would take over the corresponding phillies player. That goes for hamels over santana, lidge over k-fr(au)od rollins over reyes, victorino over mole head and even feliz over wright based on how they all played in pressure situations and in the world series and Especially in september! I do think wright is the best hitter on the mets but he has been a no show in the past 2 septembers.
Just wanted to get you mets fans' motor started for a nice 2009 season!!!
:grenade:

I just want to know why would a Fillies fan wander off to opposing forums.:rolleyes:
I do not know what is worse, listening to what people read on a sportsforum and believing it, or making up your own cockamamie opinions---
Again, take Lidge off of last years Fillies team and they do not make the playoff. Not an opinion, but a fact. The guy had a year that is unheard of...fact. No one goes 42 for 42...fact. If the guy goes 38 for 42 then the Fillies do not make the playoffs...fact.
9999 out of 10000 baseball fans would rather have Santana over Hamels...fact.
Fact...anyone who thinks that Feliz is better than Wright has been drinking too much dechlorinator.
Doug, I hope that you can pick up your "game" during the season, 'cause right not you're not even in Spring Training form.

[Mark]

GO RED SOX. :partay:

Sorry guys,,,thought I'd share something positive about MLB. LMAO

GO RED SOX

Now a negative thought...........

Looks like this A-ROID story goes deeper than we know. I love it when
athletes appologize when they get caught, You think he had enough time to come up with a story???? And he still got it wrong. The stuff he says he used wasnt even around at that time in 2001-2003. Not even by prescription??
:a-okhand:

Any predictions opn how many HR's A-Rod hits this year,,now that he's under the gun??? ..................I say less than 40

Mark

[jennl]

Well, Bill, glad to see you haven't lost your sense of humor when it comes to baseball....still a METS fan I see....:partay::partay::partay:



........and I will hurt you if you post that pic again of Jorge! LOL

[AlishanAS]

.......and I will hurt you if you post that pic again of Jorge! LOL

So Bill will not be let into Atlantis? We'll put him at the picnic table with a coffee and some flake food.

[YoungAquaticPhotos]

So Bill let's not dwell on WHAT IF! The Phillie's did win and the Met's didn't and NEVER will again! They again were choking on the BIG APPLE! What if? What if? What if? Excuses! Excuses! Excuses! Always from Chokers!
That would be like me saying if the Cardinals didn't have Fitzgerald the Cardinals would not have beat the Eagles! Stop whining! What's up next is another CHOKE year for the Met's!

[DNICE]

I would love to see the Mets' playoff hopes come down to the last game, and for them to..............CHOKE like they always do!!! How can you root for a team that sells the rights to name their stadium!!

[AlishanAS]

Filly fans do know a lot about choking with one championship in 25 years. I'll give them that.
Did McNabb throw up in the Card game?

I guess since about 90% of sports teams are naming their stadiums after corporate sponsors we'll have no one left to root for.

[fischfan13]

Geez, I am sooooo upset....NOT.
Sounds as if that wonderful new Stadium that you Yankee fans have been so anticipating has a major flaw. The bleachers in CF are obstructed seats. Seems as if when those greedy owners of that dump were building the restaurant in the right-center-field section of the stadium they did not realize that the CF bleachers bums would not be able to see right field.
:signOops::rofl:

[fischfan13]

Time to bring this thread back!

Santana looked good, but this team still has a lot of questions.

[Shabe]

Welcome to Schiti Field Home of the NY Mets. Great views.

Railing/Staircase Obstructions:


http://sectionsix.metsblog.com/CF1.jpg (http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture106.jpg) http://sectionsix.metsblog.com/CF2.jpg (http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture107.jpg)



LED Obstructions:


http://sectionsix.metsblog.com/PB1.jpg (http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture135.jpg)





http://sectionsix.metsblog.com/PB3.jpg (http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/saltzy23/Citi%20Field%20Tour%202-13-09/Picture137.jpg)
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/saltzy23/Citi%20Field%20Tour%202-13-09/Picture137.jpg)

There are 3 sections of either side of home plate in the Promenade Club sections, where the 1st row is considered 'Premium seating' that are 100% affected by this LED obstruction. (Sections 406-408 on the 1st base side, Sections 421-423 on the 3rd base side) Each picture was taken sitting in the seat, and meant to offer as objective a view as possible from that seat as someone there would get. As you can see, 20%-25% of the field is blocked, including a large portion of home plate and 1st base line. I am 5'7" and needed to strain my neck to see the entire home plate area. These seats are $75 each. The seats further down the lines are $35. These LED boards are unnecessary, and completely absurd. Something MUST be done about this. The thought of a father taking his son to Opening Day this year, only to realize they cannot see home plate has been haunting me since I sat in these seats, forget about the people that have spent over $6,000 per seat for full season tickets. In advance, I will acknowledge that the Mets have labeled the seats by the staircases(facing towards home, for the 1st 2 rows, 1st 4 seats) obstructed, and are not selling full season tickets in them. The ones that face the outfield are equally as bad in my opinion, and are not labeled as such.

Pasted from http://sectionsix.metsblog.com/blog/_archives/2009/2/19/4098371.html

[YoungAquaticPhotos]

I am guessing that's why they named it ****TY Field? LOL! I think CHOKE Stadium would have been better!

[greyd]

Nice to see bernie madoff's seats are for sale. Besides the biggest ponzi scheme in history he was a fan of the crummy mets. The mets have an illustrious history of never winning the division at least 2 years in a row, Never having a pitcher throw a no hitter except when they leave the mets and Never ever ever having a player finish first in the league mvp voting.

So with 2 ws titles and 4 pennants in almost 50 years that is a supreme lack of winning history for a team in the biggest city in the country, while over in the american league the yankees have more history in their last 10 years than the mets have had in 48. The mets have put together 2 of the most amazing chokes in the history of baseball though, with no reason to expect them to avoid doing the same thing this year. Until they actually do something I consider them to be irrelevant as do the rest of the baseball fans in the country. So far the only thing guaranteed is that their fans will be obnoxious as possible wherever they go, maybe it's years of frustration in seeing the yankees win and now the phillies win while the mets don't.

[AlishanAS]

Nice to see bernie madoff's seats are for sale. Besides the biggest ponzi scheme in history he was a fan of the crummy mets. The mets have an illustrious history of never winning the division at least 2 years in a row, Never having a pitcher throw a no hitter except when they leave the mets and Never ever ever having a player finish first in the league mvp voting.

So with 2 ws titles and 4 pennants in almost 50 years that is a supreme lack of winning history for a team in the biggest city in the country, while over in the american league the yankees have more history in their last 10 years than the mets have had in 48. The mets have put together 2 of the most amazing chokes in the history of baseball though, with no reason to expect them to avoid doing the same thing this year. Until they actually do something I consider them to be irrelevant as do the rest of the baseball fans in the country. So far the only thing guaranteed is that their fans will be obnoxious as possible wherever they go, maybe it's years of frustration in seeing the yankees win and now the phillies win while the mets don't.

Two championships in 50 years is better than 2 championships in 125 years.

A Philly guy calling other fans obnoxious?LOL LOL LOL LOL And speaking for the other fans across the country? Even more LOL LOL LOL. Philadelphia fans are the most universally despised people in the nation.
I heard what they did to Adam Eaton the other day. Real class.

[fischfan13]

How did the Yankees bullpen blow a game to a minor league team?

[deadhead]

RIP Harry Kalas......One of the greatest sports announcer's of all time....Not only was he the voice of the Phillies but he also did NFL films.....I will always remember his voice doing thoses NFL Films.....It is a sad sad day for sports.....

[eggzackary]

How did the Yankees bullpen blow a game to a minor league team?

Girardi should've let Veras finish the inning instead of putting Coke in. He took a gamble and lost.

[fischfan13]

This season is starting to get good:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
SDG (8-3) 0 0 1 0 2 2 0 3 0 8 15 0
PHI (4-5) 5 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 7 14 0
Final


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
CLE (4-8) 0 14 1 1 4 0 0 1 1 22 25 1
NYY (6-6) 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 4 7 1

[fischfan13]

I don't want any Yankees fans to think that they will get off lightly with this loss!

I cannot remember the last time a pitching staff gave up two touchdowns in an inning!:pound:

[joe_jaskot]

I don't want any Yankees fans to think that they will get off lightly with this loss!

I cannot remember the last time a pitching staff gave up two touchdowns in an inning!:pound:

The Yankee pitchers were just trying to raise up their earned run averages. LOL!

[fischfan13]

On the first day of school a first grade teacher explains to her class that she is a Yankees fan.
She asks her students to raise their hands if they, too, are Yankees fans.
Wanting to impress their teacher, everyone in the class raises their hand except one little girl.
The teacher looks at the girl with surprise, "Janie, why didn't you raise your hand?" "Because I'm not a Yankees fan," she replied.
The teacher, still shocked, asked, "Well, if you are not a Yankees fan, then who are you a fan of?"
"I am a Red Sox fan, and proud of it," Janie replied.
The teacher could not believe her ears. "Janie, why pray tell are you a Red Sox fan?"
"Because my mom is a Red Sox fan, and my dad is Red Sox fan, so I'm a Red Sox fan too!"
"Well," said the teacher in a obviously annoyed tone, "that is no reason for you to be a Red Sox fan. You don't have to be just like your parents all of the time. What if your mom were an idiot and your dad were a moron, what would you be then?"
"Then," Janie smiled, "I'd be a Yankees fan."

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

Since this is a family site I think idiot and moron should be removed from the last post. Since over 50% of the people on the site are yankee fans a lot of very nice people's feeling's will be hurt. And we here at ECC are all about good happy feelings.

[fischfan13]

Geez Jeff, 50%?
I doubt it...

A Red Sox fan liked to amuse himself by scaring every Yankees fan he saw strutting down the street in an obnoxious NY pinstripe shirt. He would swerve his van as if to hit them, then swerve back just missing them.
One day while driving along, he saw a priest. He thought he would do a good deed, so he pulled over and asked the priest, "Where are you going, Father?"
"I'm going to give Mass at St. Francis church, about two miles down the road," replied the priest.
"Climb in, Father. I'll give you a lift!" The priest climbed into the passenger seat, and they continued down the road..
Suddenly, the driver saw a Yankees fan walking down the road, and he instinctively swerved as if to hit him. But, as usual, he swerved back onto the road just in time.
Even though he was certain that he had missed the guy, he still heard a loud THUD. not knowing where the noise came from, he glanced in his mirrors but still didn't see anything.
He then remembered the priest, and he turned to the priest and said, sorry Father, I almost hit that Yankees fan."
"That's OK," replied the priest "I got him with the door."

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

I bet it's higher than 50% Make a poll Then again look who's working the poll's forget it'

[fischfan13]

Jeff, bitterness will get you nowhere...

Four baseball fans - a Cubs fan, a Cardinals fan, a Red Sox fan, and a Yankees fan - are climbing a mountain and arguing about who loves his team more.
The Cubs fan insists he is the most loyal. "This is for the Cubs!" he yells, and jumps off the side of the mountain.
Not to be outdone, the Cardinals fan shouts, "This is for the Cardinals!" and throws himself off the mountain.
The Red Sox fan is next to profess his love for his team.
He yells, "This is for everyone!" and pushes the Yankees fan off the mountain.

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

Being a yankee fan is the same as being an AMERICAN , If you are one your proud with good reason.
And if your not one your still looking for a reason to be proud

[fischfan13]

Jeff, put down the cocktail...

A family of New York Yankee fans headed out one Saturday to shop for the youngest boy's birthday.
While in the sports shop the son picks up a Red Sox jersey and says to his older sister, "I've decided to become a Red Sox fan and I would l like this Boston Red Sox jersey for my birthday."
His big sister is outraged by this and promptly whacks him upside his head and says, "Go talk to mother."
Off goes the little lad with the jersey in hand and finds his mother.. "Mom?"
"Yes, son?"
"I've decided I'm going to be a Red Sox fan and I would like this jersey for my birthday."
The mother is outraged at this, promptly whacks him around the head and says, "Go talk to your father!"
Off he goes with the Red Sox jersey in hand and finds his father. "Dad?"
"Yes, son?"
"I've decided I'm going to be a Red Sox fan and I would like this jersey for my birthday."
The father is outraged and promptly whacks his son in the back of his head and says, "No son of mine is ever going to be seen in THAT!"
About half an hour later they're all back in the car and heading towards home. The father turns to his son and says "Son, I hope you've learned something today?"
The son says, "Yes, Dad, I have."
"Good! And what is it you learned?"
The son replies, "I've only been a Red Sox fan for an hour and I already hate you Yankee bastards!"

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

No need for cocktail's here but don't you stop on my account it's going to be another tough painful year for you METSIE fan's. Hey I looked up mets stadium and there isn't one listed, didn't the mets just make a new stadium?

[fischfan13]

Of the 30 MLB teams, where do the Yankees stand in team ERA?
30th 6.18 ERA

Wang 0-3 34.50 ERA
Veras 6.30
Ramirez 7.36
Marte 15.19

Have the Indians stopped scoring in the 2nd inning?

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

11-0 Yanks 7-4 MARLINS

[Zippo]

Well well, you Yankee fans can now get a discount on those front row seats. Seems they dropped the price from $2500 per seat down to $1250. Gee what a deal.:bolt:

[Zippo]

Well well, you Yankee fans can now get a discount on those front row seats. Seems they dropped the price from $2500 per seat down to $1250. Gee what a deal. :spit:

[fischfan13]

Zippo, not only the discount, but Yankees ownership has inserted some cockamamie ticket scheme for those who have already purchased these over priced tickets. They are giving these people free tickets as well.
I can only imagine...
Yankees fans with free tickets will be selling these tickets on Ebay and Stubhub.

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

High priced Yankee tic's will move alot faster than the free METSIE ticket's kevin could'nt give away, and those were probably dugout seats with a surf-n-turf dinner.

[fischfan13]

Here is the insanity...

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/04/28/sports/28tick-600.jpg

Twelve days after opening their new stadium, the Yankees on Tuesday bowed to the sour economy and the specter of empty seats by slashing in half some of their top-end, $2,500-a-game prices.

Going further, the team also announced it will provide significant numbers of complimentary seats to existing season-ticket holders in premium sections, including some of the critical, and very visible, real estate behind home plate.

The team’s price reductions and giveaways affect full-season ticket-holders in premium locations, but not those with partial plans. Those planning to buy premium seats for individual games will also get discounts that have not yet been detailed.

Over all, the new policy represents a dramatic retreat from the team’s initial luxury-sales strategy for the new stadium, which was underlined in advertisements that crowed “Own the Greatness” and “Select the Greatest Seats in the World.”

Last week, team officials said they would no longer discuss ticket prices or the many empty seats behind home plate and the two dugouts that were painfully visible at Yankee Stadium and on television during the team’s first homestand from April 16-22.

The sight of those empty seats invited mockery from critics who said the Yankees had badly overreached. And the consternation it was causing for Yankee officials was made clear when Randy Levine, the team’s president, harshly criticized Don Garber, the commissioner of Major League Soccer, after Garber mentioned that the sight of some of the best seats at the new stadium going unfilled was “unbelievable.”

The team had first hinted at a change in ticket policy April 2 when Hal Steinbrenner, the team’s managing general partner, said, “There’s no doubt that a small amount of our tickets might be overpriced.”

But back then, still two weeks before the home opener, Steinbrenner could not have anticipated the empty swaths of blue seats that were supposed to be filled with people willing to pay $500, $600, $850, $1,250 or $2,500 a game for a premium seat.

Steinbrenner announced the new ticket policy in a statement issued Tuesday afternoon. Neither he nor Levine was available to comment on the new policy. Nor was Lonn Trost, the team’s chief operating officer and the Yankee executive most identified with the initial ticket strategy. The new plan, which is only for the rest of the 2009 season, includes these features:

¶The full-season, front-row $2,500 tickets behind the dugouts will be reduced to $1,250, and those who have already purchased such tickets will get a refund or a credit. Still, at $1,250, those tickets will remain roughly twice as expensive as the highest-priced seat at Citi Field, the Mets’ new home.

¶Tickets along the first- and third-base lines that cost $1,000 a game will be cut to $650. Refunds and credits will apply as well.

¶Fans who have purchased $2,500 front-row season tickets behind and to the sides of home plate will not get a price cut. Instead, they will receive an equal number of front-row seats, for free, for the rest of the season, in what may be an attempt by the Yankees to fill up the empty spaces so visible on TV.

The Yankees’ willingness to give away some of those top seats, along with waiter-served food, is a clear signal that while 85 percent of the 4,397 premium seats have been sold, the most expensive ones are moving much slower.

Alice McGillion, a team spokeswoman, would not say how many of the $2,500 seats have been sold for the season. She said the giveaways are part of “a promotional strategy.”

She also said the team’s focus was on accommodating the fans who have paid $325 and more for full-season ticket plans — and not other fans who have paid less but might have seen their ticket costs jump substantially from last season. “This was a very specific pricing plan, going off Hal’s comments, to look at the premium pricing,” she said.

But Assemblyman Richard L. Brodsky, a frequent critic of the financing of the new stadium, criticized the new policy, saying: “The people who built Yankee Stadium with their tax money can no more afford $1,200 a game than they can afford $2,500.”

The Yankees’ plan also provides significant numbers of complimentary seats for various numbers of games to buyers of season tickets that cost from $1,250 to $500 a game. In addition, other season-ticket holders higher up behind home plate will see their ticket prices cut from $750 to $500 a game.

The team also said fans who buy three full-season plans for $325 a game in field-level sections that run from dugout to dugout will get a fourth one free. Those who have already purchased tickets in those sections will get free ones to future games this season depending on how many they have bought.

The Yankees will not divulge the financial impact of the unsold seats and McGillion would not say how the refunds, credits and free premium tickets will affect team finances. The team has made clear in the past how much more financially beneficial the new stadium would be. In January, when the Yankees issued $258.9 million in tax-exempt bonds, they estimated that ticket and suite revenue in the 2009 season would be $331.5 million, based on attendance of 3 million.

But in August 2006, when it sold $942.5 million in tax-exempt bonds, the team estimated $253.2 million in anticipated 2009 revenue, based on 3.4 million attendance — indicating that in the time between the bond issues, the team increased the prices it would charge at the stadium.

In any case, the unsold seats represented a marketing, and image, problem for a team that had hiked nonpremium seats prices by 76 percent for its new stadium.

“It was starting to hurt the overall brand,” said Donny Deutsch, chairman of Deutsch Inc., an advertising agency, when asked about the original pricing strategy. “People start asking whether you care about the fans.”

A situation comparable to what confronted the Yankees occurred when Apple appeased alienated customers by dropping the price of its iPhones from $599 to $399; customers who had paid the higher price ultimately were offered $100 coupons good for Apple merchandise.

For the most part, owners of luxury brands are reluctant to cut prices, since part of their mystique is the high price. Instead, they have given consumers optional extras, like leather seats, for free. Nonetheless, Yankee fans might not see the cut in ticket prices as anything but damage control.

Robert K. Passikoff, president of Brand Keys, a brand and research consultant, said, “It’s not about being good to our fans, it’s about, ‘Oh my God, we’ve priced the tickets too high.’ ”

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

Picture is misleading, the yankees have 38,ooo season ticket holders and have averaged 44,5oo at home games. The most expensive ticket's by far and still the best attendance in baseball. Your either misleading or your just plain wrong. Zippo is as clueless as you are.

[fischfan13]

Jeff, you should read up before you open your mouth...

Percentage of tickets sold per stadium capacity
in 2009...


Red Sox 101.6%

Phillies 96.6%

Cubs 96.3%

Angels 92.9%

Mets 90.6%

Yankees 85.0%

Giants 84.8%

Cards 84.7%

Brewers 82.3%

Looks like Yankees are sixth in percentage of attendance filled.

BTW, lets keep the name calling at ZERO...thanks.

[YoungAquaticPhotos]

Hey Bill! How bout them PHILLIES! :neener:

[fischfan13]

Newsday.com...

In other words, a week into a new season, the Yankees did what the dear, departed Bobby Abreu would never do: They hit the wall.

So now, they turn Yankee Stadium into a Middle Eastern bazaar, complete with haggling and what they consider deeply discounted prices.

And still, it is like a sale at Tiffany's. It looks nice. It sounds great.

And you still can't afford it.

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

Picture is misleading, the yankees have 38,ooo season ticket holders and have averaged 44,5oo at home games. The most expensive ticket's by far and still the best attendance in baseball. Your either misleading or your just plain wrong. Zippo is as clueless as you are.

Go to ESPN.com MLB attendance . What I said was true . Yankees #1 in attendance with the most expensive seats . Misleading is where you excell. Good try. I opened my mouth with the truth !!!!!!

[fischfan13]

Jeff, I guess you have never taken a class in Statistics.
The Yankees are sixth, even behind the Mets, in percentage of capacity filled.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance?sort=home_pct&year=2009&seasonType=2

Read pct, that is the MOST important.
Those empty seats are not an illusion...they are empty.
Even the boys during that 14 run inning by the Cleveland Indians on FOX Sports were making fun of the empty seats at Yankee Stadium.

[fischfan13]

Here is the link with the PCT's in order...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance?sort=home_pct&year=2009&seasonType=2

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

So if the yankees had 100,000 seats and sold 85,000 you'd still say no good. The REAL stat is attendance and the yankees have the HIGHEST attendance in baseball PERIOD !!!! Your stat is meaningless The yankees average 8000 more people per game than the mets EIGHT thousand more people come to see the yankees than the mets for each game

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

We'll trashtalk tomorrow- out

[fischfan13]

The Yankees stadium capacity is 52,325.
Mets Stadium...42,000.
Fenway Park...39,928
Thanks for making my point.:becky:

[joe_jaskot]

The Yankees are 10-10 and the Mets are 9-11. I wouldn't pay 10 cents to see either of them play. Playing .500 ball or less does not fill stadiums.

[AlishanAS]

HOW ABOUT THOSE FLYERS, DEVILS AND RANGERS!!

OOOPS! Wrong sport!

[Shabe]

Queens, NY. (AP) - A seven-year old boy was at the center of a courtroom drama yesterday when he challenged a court ruling over whom should have custody of him. The boy has a history of being beaten by his parents and the judge initially awarded custody to his aunt, in keeping with child custody law and regulation requiring that family unity be maintained to the highest degree possible.

The boy surprised the court when he proclaimed that his aunt beat him more than his parents and he adamantly refused to live with her. When
the judge then suggested that he live with his grandparents, the boy cried and said that they also beat him. After considering the remainder of the immediate family and learning that domestic violence was apparently a way of life among them, the judge took the unprecedented step of allowing the boy to propose who should have custody of him.

After two recesses to check legal references and confer with the child welfare officials, the judge granted temporary custody to the New York
Mets, whom the boy firmly believes are not capable of beating anyone.

[fischfan13]

For those who do not want to sift thru Jeff's mess...

On the first day of school a first grade teacher explains to her class that she is a Yankees fan.
She asks her students to raise their hands if they, too, are Yankees fans.
Wanting to impress their teacher, everyone in the class raises their hand except one little girl.
The teacher looks at the girl with surprise, "Janie, why didn't you raise your hand?" "Because I'm not a Yankees fan," she replied.
The teacher, still shocked, asked, "Well, if you are not a Yankees fan, then who are you a fan of?"
"I am a Red Sox fan, and proud of it," Janie replied.
The teacher could not believe her ears. "Janie, why pray tell are you a Red Sox fan?"
"Because my mom is a Red Sox fan, and my dad is Red Sox fan, so I'm a Red Sox fan too!"
"Well," said the teacher in a obviously annoyed tone, "that is no reason for you to be a Red Sox fan. You don't have to be just like your parents all of the time. What if your mom were an idiot and your dad were a moron, what would you be then?"
"Then," Janie smiled, "I'd be a Yankees fan."
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A family of New York Yankee fans headed out one Saturday to shop for the youngest boy's birthday.
While in the sports shop the son picks up a Red Sox jersey and says to his older sister, "I've decided to become a Red Sox fan and I would l like this Boston Red Sox jersey for my birthday."
His big sister is outraged by this and promptly whacks him upside his head and says, "Go talk to mother."
Off goes the little lad with the jersey in hand and finds his mother.. "Mom?"
"Yes, son?"
"I've decided I'm going to be a Red Sox fan and I would like this jersey for my birthday."
The mother is outraged at this, promptly whacks him around the head and says, "Go talk to your father!"
Off he goes with the Red Sox jersey in hand and finds his father. "Dad?"
"Yes, son?"
"I've decided I'm going to be a Red Sox fan and I would like this jersey for my birthday."
The father is outraged and promptly whacks his son in the back of his head and says, "No son of mine is ever going to be seen in THAT!"
About half an hour later they're all back in the car and heading towards home. The father turns to his son and says "Son, I hope you've learned something today?"
The son says, "Yes, Dad, I have."
"Good! And what is it you learned?"
The son replies, "I've only been a Red Sox fan for an hour and I already hate you Yankee bastards!"
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Four baseball fans - a Cubs fan, a Cardinals fan, a Red Sox fan, and a Yankees fan - are climbing a mountain and arguing about who loves his team more.
The Cubs fan insists he is the most loyal. "This is for the Cubs!" he yells, and jumps off the side of the mountain. < /FONT>
Not to be outdone, the Cardinals fan shouts, "This is for the Cardinals!" and throws himself off the mountain.
The Red Sox fan is next to profess his love for his team.
He yells, "This is for everyone!" and pushes the Yankees fan off the mountain.
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A Red Sox fan liked to amuse himself by scaring every Yankees fan he saw strutting down the street in an obnoxious NY pinstripe shirt. He would swerve his van as if to hit them, then swerve back just missing them.
One day while driving along, he saw a priest. He thought he would do a good deed, so he pulled over and asked the priest, "Where are you going, Father?"
"I'm going to give Mass at St. Francis church, about two miles down the road," replied the priest.
"Climb in, Father. I'll give you a lift!" The priest climbed into the passenger seat, and they continued down the road..
Suddenly, the driver saw a Yankees fan walking down the road, and he instinctively swerved as if to hit him. But, as usual, he swerved back onto the road just in time.
Even though he was certain that he had missed the guy, he still heard a loud THUD. not knowing where the noise came from, he glanced in his mirrors but still didn't see anything.
He then remembered the priest, and he turned to the priest and said, sorry Father, I almost hit that Yankees fan."
"That's OK," replied the priest "I got him with the door."

[Shabe]

http://cheesegod.com/4/mets3.jpg

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

There is no JEFF's mess the yankees have the highest attendance in major league baseball PERIOD. It mean's nothing what size your stadium is.

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

How about the METSIES today they really outdid themselves METzputs gave up the lead Wright watched strike three with the tying and go ahead runs on and Jerry should read the manager's MANUEL because he is completely clueless. METS kick their fans in the face again !!!!!!! Oooooh Yeeeeea

[YoungAquaticPhotos]

How about them Phillies! They are winning!
Flyers always sucked in my eyes! I hate Hockey! Football first then basketball, then baseball! Sixer's suck too even thought they got a break by Howard being suspended!

[joe_jaskot]

I hear the Mets are moving downtown. Looking for an apartment in the basement of the NL East. LOL!

[fischfan13]

First trip to the New Mets Stadium today(yes, I refuse to call it by its name).
Charming.
Quaint.
Definitely not what I thought it was going to be.
Although I miss the place (Shea Stadium) that I have grown up with, the new ballpark is a fine fit.
Small stadium, only 42,000 seats.
Large field, the alleys are really spacious.
Being a diehard Mets fan I was actually choked up when I went inside.
The food selection is great.
Mexican, BBQ, seafood, pizza, shakes, dogs, sausage, deli, ice cream a beirgarten, and a lot more. It was great to actually have a "good" beer at a Mets game (Blue Point).

Although I am a huge Yankees-hater I am interested in going there this year as well (it's been about 15 yrs since I have been there).

Comparing the two are apples and oranges, so I would not even.
I would tell anyone who is a baseball fan to visit the New Mets Ballpark...even my buddy Jeff!

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

I have'nt gone to either yet but I'd enjoy going to both. As a human , I feel badly for Bill having that kind of day on his first visit. As proof of my humility I will admit to all now that my fist baseball Mitt was a JOHN MILNER blue first basemen's glove given to me by my grandfather. I alway's hoped that was the only lefthanded glove in the store, but I believe dear grandpa might have been a ---fan . Alright I tried.

[fischfan13]

Jeff, I was a HUUUUUUUUUGE John Milner fan as a kid...I even adopted his batting stance, being a left-handed hitter myself.
I am a Mets fan first and foremost, but I would definitely go to Yankees Stadium to see it if given the chance.

Worst part of the day...
My son and I had taken a walk to the Shake Shack to grab a few milkshakes. When we got back to our seats the guy next to us told me that after we left a foul ball hit the aisle seat to my left and rolled in front of my seat.
Ouch.

I have only caught one foul ball in my life, hit by Cards backup catcher (later became a Yankee backup) Tom Pagnozzi.
About two years ago I had a foul ball roll behind my seat. I turned to pull it in and while just on the tip of my fingers some teenage kid ran behind me and grabbed the ball before I could get a grasp on it. I over heard him telling one of his buddies, "I grabbed it from that old guy"...ouch.

[Shabe]

It was great to actually have a "good" beer at a Mets game (Blue Point).

That brewery is about 10mins from my house out on Long Island

:spit:Oh by the way it's made out of Yankee Urine! Glad you liked it.:spit:

Serously it is out by me.

[AlishanAS]

:spit:Oh by the way it's made out of Yankee Urine! Glad you liked it.:spit:

So it must be full of steroids.

[Greg B]

As a kid standing by the dugout Jon Milner popped his head out and rolled a ball to me. I have always been a Yankee fan, but it was still a pretty cool experience.

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

Yankee's come back from 9-4 and win 10-9. I'd rather see 4-0 anyday. But I'll take it.

[fischfan13]

Mets beat the Phillies 7-4...not impressed.

[joe_jaskot]

Mets beat the Phillies 7-4...not impressed.
Who would be impressed by a 10W-12L team winning a game?

[fischfan13]

Put it in the books!
The Mets are now above .500 and .5 out of first.
A nice little sweep of the Fillies.

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

Back to back homer's off Mo the wheel's have officially come off the yankee wagon.

[fischfan13]

5 game winning streak for those Metsies.
Has anyone noticed that the Fillies Phans have been awfully quiet since the Mets "mini" sweep?

[fischfan13]

6 game winning streak for the Mets...and finally in first place.
<Is this thing on?>

[deadhead]

Bill......
We need another starter.....I mean a real starter someone named Roy???????

[fischfan13]

Tommy and I mentioned Roy last night...I am not a fan, but we do need another, and possibly another.

[YoungAquaticPhotos]

Bill Phillies lost again today but like every year they like the Mets ahead of them in first til the last weekend! LOL!

[fischfan13]

7 wins in a row by those Metsies!!!

[Shabe]

Look what the Mets are selling on thier home page. I don't think it will help.

http://m1.2mdn.net/viewad/592933/300x250_nymfun.jpg

[fischfan13]

If you missed tonights Mets-Red Sox game then you missed the absolute best game of the year. The starting pitching was superb, as Beckett and Pelfrey were lights out. Defensive plays every inning that shined.
Best of all, Mets won 3-2.

[deadhead]

I think they should have sold the life presever the last two septembers!!!!!

[eggzackary]

If you missed tonights Mets-Red Sox game then you missed the absolute best game of the year. The starting pitching was superb, as Beckett and Pelfrey were lights out. Defensive plays every inning that shined.
Best of all, Mets won 3-2.
It was almost as good as Melky's walk-off in the 9th off Lidge:)

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

Yankees are looking good in first place !

[fischfan13]

Yankees are looking good in first place !

Defense and pitching win championships.
The are half they way there.
Joba MUST go in the bullpen...and then you will have the final piece.

As for my Mets...
Still too early.
It is a head scratcher that with almost the entire team hurt they are still fighting for 1st place. IMO they will win their division because of 2 men...
Santana and K-Rod.

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

Sadly I have to say I think the METS will win their division this year. Yanks are going to win buy 5 games or more.

[joe_jaskot]

How about those amazin Mets, losing to the worst team in baseball. LOL!

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

Sadly I have to say I think the METS will win their division this year.

I might have spoken too soon.

[fischfan13]

Huge week...

Mets-Fillies
Bosox-Yanks
Mets-Yanks
Bosox-Fillies

My opinion, and wish...

Mets 4-2
Bosox 5-1
Fillies 2-4
Yanks 1-5 (Bosox will sweep the Yanks)

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

Mets 4-2
Bosox 5-1
Fillies 2-4
Yanks 1-5 (Bosox will sweep the Yanks)

Now the real outcome

Mets 2-4
Yanks 4-2

[fischfan13]

Put it in the books!
http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/00037/krod_mets_rodrigu_37702gm-a.jpg

GREAT night for baseball!!!

[Shabe]

Ah ha ha ha ha :crutch::crutch::crutch:

[eggzackary]

:neener:HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!:neener:

YANKS WIN 9-8!!!!

[color]

WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!!!!!!!! Did you see the pop up! I got it I got it I got it..OOOPS I dropped it.... Lets go YANKS!!!!

Thats all i got to say....:neener:

[fischfan13]

I am sick.
Absolutely sick.
There are not many things that I could do better than a Major League Baseball player. I cannot hit a 95mph fastball. I cannot hit a ball 400 feet. But I can catch a pop up. A Pop up. No wind. No rain. A pop up. Only one person to blame...Luis Castillo. It was a pop up.

Yes, I had my post already and loaded. I had hit the submit button once ARod hit the pop up.

A pop up.

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

That ball had A-TON of spin , castillo never had a chance.:tomatoe:

[fischfan13]

That ball had A-TON of spin , castillo never had a chance.:tomatoe:

Are you seriously sticking up for Castillo?
How many pop ups do you see dropped in a season...one or two?
"Spin" my...

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

No he's a disgrace. That's him getting the tomato. It is fun though pretending jerko-- Girardi didn't blow the game. Mo is like 10-10 in blown holds. What a shmu--

[fischfan13]

True, Girardi would have been the goat if...if...if...

How do you drop a pop up???

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

You Don't

[greyd]

I did watch that game on mlb since the phils red sox was blacked out. That was a fluke play. Church Had to be playing deep because it was a-roid at the plate and castillo just closed the glove before the ball was completely in it. Castilla has played much better this year than I ever thought he would and I have no idea how that team is getting production out of tatis, sheffield, cora and feliciano. I still think the problem is your centerfielder who although he has 5 tool talent, I think he's is a complete wuss. I think if he was in a lineup like the yankees, phils or red sox he'd be perfect because there would be less pressure on him. Can't argue with hitting .345 though.

[joe_jaskot]

True, Girardi would have been the goat if...if...if...

How do you drop a pop up???Maybe he had a wager on the Yanks and accidentally dropped the ball. LOL!

[fischfan13]

Ah ha ha ha ha :crutch::crutch::crutch:

HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!

YANKS WIN 9-8!!!!


WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!!!!!!!! Did you see the pop up! I got it I got it I got it..OOOPS I dropped it.... Lets go YANKS!!!!

Thats all i got to say....

I wonder if people lost internet connection.
Really quiet.
Where are the Yankees fans tonight?

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

Right now the pitching and hitting really sucks. Cano is back to crap, a-rod can't hit his way out of a paper bag, and the captain is just out of it.

[color]

PLEASE Can Someone stop the bleeding!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW Santana out in the 4th..

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

PLEASE Can Someone stop the bleeding!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW Santana out in the 4th..

You should be used to the bleeding the Met's are like VAMPIRES sucking the lifeblood out of their fans :asthanos:

[color]

You should be used to the bleeding the Met's are like VAMPIRES sucking the lifeblood out of their fans :asthanos:

LMAO!!!!!!


13-0 in the 4th. One more and were playing football...:neener:

[AlishanAS]

Typical front runner Yankee fans show up now.

BTW, I hope when they play at Citi blowhard non-entity Bruner gets to bat. Should be interesting....

[color]

Typical front runner Yankee fans show up now.

BTW, I hope when they play at Citi blowhard non-entity Bruner gets to bat. Should be interesting....


We are always here to accommadate.....It's now 15-0......Giants got the ball at half...lol................I mean the yankees are up.....

[AlishanAS]

Too bad they can't hit like that against the Red Sox.

[color]

Why you got to go there....LMAO...............We are getting are practice right now for them in the future.....

[AlishanAS]

Santana must be hurt just like the rest of the team. His last 4-5 starts have not been exactly stellar.

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

Typical front runner Yankee fans show up now.

BTW, I hope when they play at Citi blowhard non-entity Bruner gets to bat. Should be interesting....

I agree that would be interesting, however he's a 7/8 inning guy who would never bat anyway . More likely he'll be back on the DL or out for the rest of season by that time anyway. He's got great stuff but he can't stay healthy so he's no help to the YANKEES anyway.

[fischfan13]

Typical front runner Yankee fans show up now.



I guess the Yankee fans here lost internet service on Saturday night.
Were some of you guys busy yesterday?:washing:

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

Right now the pitching and hitting really sucks. Cano is back to crap, a-rod can't hit his way out of a paper bag, and the captain is just out of it.

Last night 12:41 am


Oh yea tear's were flowing like wine last-night but as the sun rose in the horizon I smelled certain victory.

[joe_jaskot]

15-0 Football score?

[greyd]

If the Mets had K-Rod and Putz last year they would have won the division by 5-8 games, Lidge or not. Santana would have won 22 or so games since the cowpen blew so many of his starts.
If they both pitch the way they have in the past the Mets will be competetive in the division even with stiffs like Castillo and sure outs like Schneider. A lot will depend on Ryan Church overcoming his concussions. He was having an all star 1st third when he crashed.
And Met Killer Burrell is gone. I don't think the Fillies will miss him that much against other teams

K-fraud and the putz don't seem to be getting you guys the big division lead you all said you were gonna have. You were right that Lidge isn't gonna be perfect.

[fischfan13]

K-fraud and the putz don't seem to be getting you guys the big division lead you all said you were gonna have. You were right that Lidge isn't gonna be perfect.


KRod is definitely not to blame for the Mets being in 2nd place. As a matter of fact they would possibly be in 4th if not for him.
Lidge had a career year last year and is THE REASON why the Fillies went all the way.

[greyd]

I was just busting on Tom a little. I'm surprised that the metsies haven't made some kind of move to get a better than avg first baseman with power and a real outfielder, not to mention another starter. Now that the best pitcher on earth is getting hit hard they have to do something to get people to show up in the new park. And the excuse that the new park is not a homerun park loses it's argument when the phillies go there and hit 7 in 3 games.

[AlishanAS]

Hey Doug - you gonna show up at the October 10 auction? Fillys should be out of it by then. :)

[fischfan13]

2pm, and I am directly across the street from Camden Yards!

Boogs, he we come!

[fischfan13]

Mets take 3 of 4 from the Cards.
Bring on the Chumps from The Bronx.

[Greg B]

A Rod is starting to hit again. Has Castillo been practicing catching Pop ups?

[fischfan13]

A Rod is starting to hit again. Has Castillo been practicing catching Pop ups?

Bring it on, Greg...bring it on!
How is Posada doing with that pitching staff?:hypnotized:

[color]

The Spanking has just begun!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can anyone CC me on the next post.....LMAO................

[color]

I am sorry but the mets played like little leaguers tonight! Geez it's quiet..........We must be doing water changes....................

[fischfan13]

I am sorry but the mets played like little leaguers tonight! Geez it's quiet..........We must be doing water changes....................

Kev, not sure I remember what your response was after the last game the Mets beat the Yankees...
Oh, yeah...there was none.

[color]

May the best man win the next game...C u tommorrow...:tea:

[fischfan13]

Hey Kev, has anyone ever told you that Jerry Manuel could be your older brother?
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/Fischfan13/kevinauction.jpg

http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/New+York+Mets+Name+Jerry+Manuel+Interim+Manager+rd l-IO54AEml.jpg

[Greg B]

Kev, not sure I remember what your response was after the last game the Mets beat the Yankees...
Oh, yeah...there was none.

I'm feeling a 3 game sweep.

[color]

Hey Kev, has anyone ever told you that Jerry Manuel could be your older brother?
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/Fischfan13/kevinauction.jpg

http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/New+York+Mets+Name+Jerry+Manuel+Interim+Manager+rd l-IO54AEml.jpg

Sorry Bill he can't be my brother he has a mets jersey on!

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

First thought's about citifield are nice infield dirt ( dark brown ) and outfield wall is idiotic. l think it's real nice though ,when they show a shot of the pitcher you can see how close the outfield fans look. Why can't they stop playing games with outfield walls most of the stadium's have some wierd setups ? Nice place though. Hope the Yank's like it too.

[fischfan13]

First thought's about citifield are nice infield dirt ( dark brown ) and outfield wall is idiotic. l think it's real nice though ,when they show a shot of the pitcher you can see how close the outfield fans look. Why can't they stop playing games with outfield walls most of the stadium's have some wierd setups ? Nice place though. Hope the Yank's like it too.

The NEW Mets ballpark is absolutely beautiful.
VEry small comfy feel for fans, and a very spacious large outfield for the outfielders.
It is definitely one of the largest outfields in baseball, as compared to the NY BANBOX in The Bronx.
You do realize that the fans sitting in the OF seats at yankee Stadium are MUCH MUCH closer?
Ryan Church recently said about the new yankee stadium that he has never played in an OF that was so short to the walls. As for the walls at the NEW Mets Stadium...they are really neat. Newer ballparks have nooks and crannies that make them each unique. Speed, defense and pitching will win at the NEW Mets Stadium...not pop-ups behind 2nd base that are HR's like in that new stadium in the bronx.

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

The stadium is a bandbox but it was not intended to be that way , they took the same dimensions but obviously air current's are different. Other than down the lines though I'd say fans in the outfield at citi have a better view.

On a different subject ya think the mets will get any hits tonight? LOL

[fischfan13]

On a different subject ya think the mets will get any hits tonight? LOL

No.:cold:

[fischfan13]

Absolutely sickening.
In the past 22 innings the Mets have had baserunners in only 5 of those innings.
This team is a team filled with backups and minor leaguers on offense, with the exception of David Wright.
No Reyes.
No Delgado.
No Beltran.
No Maine.
No Perez.
No Putz.
Schneider was on the DL.
Castillo has been playing hurt.
Sheffield is playing hurt as well.
At one point this season the Mets had to play their fourth choice at SS, this because two of the SS's were disabled and one was injured and on the bench.
I see why there are no moves being made...the Phillies can barely win themselves. The Mets are playing like garbage yet they are only 2 games out of first place.
Is it football season yet?

[color]

Hey I feel the same way Bill they make me sick too...lol.............

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

I just won my fantasy baseball D.L. league. I picked the Mets D.L team and went 162-0. The Mets finally won a championship.

[Greg B]

not pop-ups behind 2nd base that are HR's like in that new stadium in the bronx.

Pop ups that Castillo can't catch. I hope the weather is nice tomorrow, I am bringing my broom for the Sweep!!

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

The most amusing thing I've seen in year's K-ROD walking MO. Outstanding !!!

[eggzackary]

I gotta call it......SWEEP!

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

You mean SWEET right ?

[fischfan13]

:smash:

At least Interleague play is over.

:censored:

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

I guess the Yankee fans here lost internet service on Saturday night.
Were some of you guys busy yesterday?:washing:

HHHmmmm no Met fan's right back at ya.

[fischfan13]

HHHmmmm no Met fan's right back at ya.

I guess that you missed my post before yours...I never hide.:box:

[AMBUSHPREDATOR]

I checked , you werent on since 8:32pm . Then I posted and you beat me.

[dbondi]

Mo finally got his 1st career rbi tonight...only took 13 years

[Shabe]

The most amusing thing I've seen in year's K-ROD walking MO. Outstanding !!!


K-Clod would'nt strike out his god! He's every closer's Idol. :1devil::1devil:

[fischfan13]

It is now officially the NL Least!

Philadelphia 39 37 .513 -
Florida 41 39 .513 -
NY Mets 39 39 .500 1
Atlanta 38 40 .487 2

[fischfan13]

As a Mets fan it is official...
http://www.waltsense.com/storage/articles/20090501_mets-paper-bags.jpg

[YoungAquaticPhotos]

I think the Mets would play better with the Bags over their heads!

GO Phillies!!!!!!!!!

[joe_jaskot]

Mets are streaking. Heading for the cellar. (May not get there because Washington is so bad). Heard they are changing the name of their new stadium to $hity Field. LOL!

[fischfan13]

I am just about ready to throw in the towel on the Mets season. The last time I could recall a Mets team that had so many injuries was about 1972...that was the year (I believe) that George "The Stork" Theodore was in a serious collision in the outfield.
Omar Minaya should be fired. There was no backup plan for these injuries because there is no one in the minors that is worthy of playing in the majors.

Looks like I will be rooting for a Giants vs Rays World Series.

[joe_jaskot]

71 games to go, and this so called Met's fan is throwing in the towel. Maybe what Bill needs is a crying towel. LOL!

[AlishanAS]

Looks like I will be rooting for a Giants vs Rays World Series.

Giants? I cannot root for any team that the Mad Dog moron is a fan of.

[greyd]

There was no backup plan for these injuries because there is no one in the minors that is worthy of playing in the majors.



It's not that there was no backup plan in case of injuries, the team was not constructed well to begin with. The only improvements over last year was really subtraction in the bullpen And the addition of jj the putz, which has not worked out well. Mets had wagner last 2 years who despite blown saves was an excellent top of the line closer, despipte beinh a total jerk and apparent clubhouse cancer. K-rod is a slight upgrade over what wagner was the 1st 2 years for the metsies and Huge upgrade over no wagner. K-rod can be really good but I still think he's not someone to count on in tight games that the season would be on the line. Kinda like lidge is doing for the phils this year, although on a lesser scale than lidge! I really think that k-rod would be doing the same thing as he did in the few key games he did blow this year and against boston in the alds.

The core of the mets team still Was not and IS not good enough to win the nl least. As I said in a prior post I'd take any phillie at any position over the corresponding mets player Prior to injuries. Wright seems screwed up at the plate despite hitting like he's a singles hitter. Beltran is a 5 tool player with no guts. 1b is not coming back, 2b stinks, especially on popups:), ss can be a great player but hasn't done it when the pressure was on, lf, stinks, rf is realy a 4th outfielder unless he gets straightened out, the new catcher santos seems like a good find. Santana is a great pitcher, pelfrey, although a head case, could be a really good pitcher, livan is finished, maine who knows what he will do once healthy.

If the mets keep minaya and manuel then they have a ton of work to do in order to rebuild this team. Personally I hope they continue to keep the same guys because I am Really enjoying baseball this year. At least you guys got a new and beautiful ballpark this year.

[fischfan13]

I do not claim to always be right, but after last year I screamed for this team to strengthen its Starting Pitching. Starting this season it was Santana and Pelfrey...and that's it. Maine came into the season injured, but it was brushed aside. Lowe was the "innings eater" that was needed, but even I cannot blame Minaya for not spending a massive amount of money or years on him. Going into 2010 it will be the same thing...Starting Pitching.

David Wright has NO ONE hitting around him. His average is .250 since the last major injury (Beltran). Wright cannot be blamed for trying to place the load on his shoulders, nor should he be looked at as a singles hitter.

Minaya is to blame for everything...everything.
Delgado was considered a bargain if re-signed by the Mets, and after he re-signed the Mets should have shopped him for a pitcher.
Castillo is Minaya's fault...plain and simple.
Reyes...no one thought this would happen. Shut him down and lets start all over next season.
Francoeur...I like this guy a lot. He is not a #5 hitter, but a decent #6 or #7 stick with the absolute best arm in the National League...something that is needed at the New Shea Stadium.
Beltran...see above for Reyes.

No Doug, this team is not as good as the Fillies...duh.
Once the Mets hit 10 games out or if they are in the position they are in now come August I want the towel thrown in. I have been thru too much with this team to hope for anything more. The minor league system is the pits...Minaya's fault. There should be players down there who can fill in. Over the past few years when the Red Sox or Phillies have encountered injuries they have been pretty safe with giving the job to a kid from Triple A...not with the Mets though. Look at the Mets box score from the past week...only Wright and Francoeur should be here next season.

[phillyofish]

Bill,
I'll let you wear my Phillies jersey at the next auction...

[greyd]

I've been saying all along that I bet the wilpon's lost a heck of a lot more money to madoff than was ever said. Once the word popped out that madoff's pyramid scheme was out there, the mets never signed another decent free agent, just stiffs. It may not be as much minaya's fault as you are made to think but I do think he is a bum and has been too busy stocking lower quality players. i. e. tatis, castillo, r. martinez, pagan, berroa, livan oliver perez and on and on until probably julio lugo the wife beater next. Nothing wrong with latin players but that's all he's brought in recently excluding the church trade and sheffield, who should be out of baseball not your team's leading homerun hitter at 10.

The mets have the worst minor league system in baseball or are close to it. They overvalue the guys they sign and get the fans pumped only to find out that they stink, i.e. reed, murphy, possibly martinez the outfielder although it is to early to judge him, he's very young. but cheer up, as k-rod proclaimed, the mets are the team to beat......... and so far every other team is doing just that, beating them.

[fischfan13]

Doug the NY papers reported that Wilpon lost $750 million in the Madoff scheme...no secret there.

I wonder who these free agents are that you speak of?
You say that they did not spend money after the Madoff loss.
They paid Ollie Perez an awfully large amount of money...blame Wilpon or Minaya.
They re-signed Delgado for a one year extension.
Decent?
Define decent.
Lowe and Texiera were available.

As for the Minors...
Worst?
Baseball America has the Mets Minor League system ranked #18 overall.

If I were a Fillies fan I would worry more about my team than a fourth place team. Once the playoffs come you have the worst starting staff in the NL. The Cards, Dodgers and Giants will do you in. Lidge had his career season last year and is the ONLY reason why you won the Series. This year you are going to need a little bit more to go further. No one in baseball is impressed that the Fillies are ahead of the Marlins, Braves and a Mets team that has lost all but one of its star everyday players.

[greyd]

I don't worry about the mets. I am simply enjoying the fact that they are pathetic and a joke of an mlb team right now whether the team and fans want to blame it on injuries or not. Phils lost ibanez for a month, their #2 starter after may and were without their setup guy for 50 games, rollins has been horrendous up until 10 games ago and lidge is either not himself or not that good any more and they are still way ahead in 1st. So hearing about injuries to your 3 'big 4 guys' (who I would not want any of those 3 on any team I rooted for) is b.s.

The mets stopped signing guys after getting k-rod, putzie and perez while they Still had Huge holes in both outfield corners, catching and 2b. Santos is working out real well but to think your team will get through a year with delgado at first was a huge mistake by minaya (and with plenty of available free agents for 1b and the outfield) no contingency plan was thought of. As for the mets having the 18th best farm system I highly doubt they are anywhere near 18. Yahoo sports, wfan and a number of others place them closer to 29 or so. All of the above have said they have no shot at grabbing anyone worthwhile during the next 10 days because of their depleted farm system. AA and AAA teams have no talent on them and are both in last place. I am Really hoping that the phils pull off a deal for halladay and then I can relax when the playoffs start.

The wilpons only admitted to losing 200 mil up until now if they finally have admitted to more. They deserve it for the greed of thinking some financial whizz-guy can get you 20% return on your money. People like that deserve what they get.

[fischfan13]

Doug, seriously, you do know baseball...don't you?

A team loses their Leadoff hitter who is an all-star shortstop and leads the majors in SB's and 3B's.
They lose their #5 hitter who is capable of 30 HR's and 100 RBI's.
They lose their #3 switch hitting Gold Glove CF who is leading the NL in hitting.
They lose their Catcher.
The lose their backup SS.
The lose the backup to the backup SS.
The lose their LF.
Their RF
Their #2 starting pitcher.
Their #3 starting pitcher.
Their #5 Starting pitcher.
Their set up man.
Their backup CF.
Their backup to the backup CF.

If the Fillies lost Rollins, Howard and Victorino it still would not equal the Mets losses...and we are not talking for a week or two.

As for your other comments...
Who was available in free agency other than Texiera?

[YoungAquaticPhotos]

Always excuses with these Met losers! :lalala:
How about them Phillies! LOL!!!! :becky:

[color]

LETS GO METS!
M E T S
MY Easy TEAM SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yanks RULE BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!

[greyd]

You must have not paid any attention to baseball at all after your euphoria in the k-rod and putzie signings. You know those 2 guys that were gonna get your team to the world series because the phillies were only lucky the last 2 years in a row. There was a laundry list of available first basemen and outfielders left while the mets signed none. Ever hear of raul ibanez for 1? I can't recall how many times I heard mets fans saying oh we have to sign manny!!!

The mets backups stunk and that was my point. Losing bums doesn't change much regarding their season unless you seriously think the mets were headed towards greatness with ramon freakin martinez, and angel pagan. What drugs are in the water in your area. Beltran (8 homers + 40 rbi's by 6/22) wouldn't have hit 30 homers this year plus he hasn't even been out 30 days yet. Your 2 3 and 5 starters stunk so you aren't missing anything there either. I'll give you reyes. Since you are living without facts here is your teams disabled list. Reyes and beltran were all stars but the rest weren't getting a team to the playoffs.

Nieve RP/SP Jul 20 15-day Torn right quadriceps - out 6-8 weeks
F. Martinez RF Jul 4 15-day Right knee inflammation
C. Beltrán CF Jun 22 15-day Bone bruise, right knee
J. Maine SP Jun 7 15-day Right shoulder fatigue
J. Putz RP Jun 5 15-day Right elbow surgery - out 8-10 weeks
R. Martínez SS/2B Jun 3 60-day Fractured left pinkie finger
J. Reyes SS May 21 15-day Right calf tendinitis
C. Delgado 1B May 11 60-day Right hip impingement
B. Wagner RP Mar 27 60-day Left elbow surgery - out for season

The phillies are a far deeper team that overcame losses of 2 all stars, rollins and ibanez for significant amounts of time.
The phils lost meyers in may, # 2 starter.
The phils lost ibanez for 30 days WAY better numbers than beltran
The phils lost rollins' all year until 10 days ago since he had reyes like september numbers from april to july 1st which was an out almost every time up in the leadoff spot.
The phils were without their setup guy romero for 50 games and got by with jack stinkin taschner.
The phils lost bastardo #5 starter a month ago
The phils lost lidge for 3 weeks.

So in short since you only read or comprehend what you want to read or comprehend, your team was not constructed well enough to compete this year. The phillies had similar injury problems than your mets yet since they are a better constructed team than your team-to-beat, today they sit in 1st place and 14 games over .500 with the 2nd best record in the n.l.

I guess next we can argue that water is a clear beverage since I'm sure you think it is orange and blue or something like that.

[fischfan13]

Do you wear pink-colored glasses?

You seem to be the ONLY person that I know who has NOT been able to understand that the Mets are hurt more than any other team in baseball this season.

Last season Jose Reyes:
750 Plate appearances
37 doubles 19 triples 16 HR's 56 SB's
He is going to miss almost the entire '09 season

Last season Carlos Beltran:
700 Plate Appearances
27 HR's 112 RbI's 25 SB's
He was leading the NL in batting when he was injured, and may miss the rest of the '09 season.

Last Season Carlos Delgado:
675 Plate Appearance:
38 HR's 115 RBI's
Will possibly miss the rest of the '09 season

What you have not added into your list of injured players was that there were backups and backup to backups injured. This made the Mets play with 3rd strings players and have to bring in AAA and AA players.
Ryan Church being injured made the Mets have to use Sheffield and Tatis more often. Pagan being injured made the Mets have to play a 20 year old for a month...a kid who is definitely not ready.

Beltran has now missed 30 games.
Pagan, his replacement was also on the DL for a few weeks.
Delgado has missed 66 games.
Church missed 20 games
Reyes missed 56 games
Maine has missed 8 starts
Perez missed 12 starts

Lets see the Fillies
Ibanez missed 22 games
Rollins 5 games
Utley none
Victorino none
Howard none
Werth none
Myers 8 starts


Your SIX best hitters have missed 25 games
Three of our best four hitters have missed 152 games...and that number will at least double by seasons end.

Sorry you cannot understand these numbers...everyone else has.

[greyd]

Wow so you seriously think the mets were headed for greatness until they lost pagan, ryan church ( whom they thought so poorly of that they traded him IN the division to the team they hate most???), ollie perez who really wasn't even hurt and never was, just his head is screwed up so he went to the disabled list instead of going to the bullpen, for 1 day, where manuel wanted him so he could straighten out and throw a strike or 2 per game.
What's the difference with losing those guys?

You Really thought delgado was going to be healthy all year?? He saved his life as a met by having an mvp 3 months from willie randolph firing day to august 30th, 2008.


You can't have things both ways, beltran had 250 or so atbats already (with little to no power) so you aren't missing 700 ab's of stellar greatness with him, so far it's been 27 games or so and I Seriously doubt a thigh bruise would keep out a real ballplayer like utley or jeter. Oh wait utley already played a half season thru a hip that needed surgery and still ended at .290 with 30 plus homers and 100 plus rbi's. hmmm and all better numbers than a fully healthy 2008 beltran. Yes I know they play diff positions and I also know that 1 player has heart and guts while the other is collecting his paycheck watching tv because his thigh hurts.

Reyes was hitting 270 or less when he got hurt and already the subject of trade rumors from the mets fan base.
delgado is lucky to have had a contract because I doubt that anyone else would have signed him had the mets not done so.

don't worry though, I have some good news for you.

ESPN.COM
Updated: July 20, 2009, 10:53 PM ET
Minaya, Manuel jobs safe Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- New York Mets manager Jerry Manuel's job is safe.

Mets general manager Omar Minaya gave the vote of confidence during the fourth inning of New York's game against the Washington Nationals on Monday night. Minaya said that he recently spoke with Mets chief operating officer Jeff Wilpon, and Wilpon was supportive.

"I want you to be our general manager, and I want Jerry to be our manager," Minaya said he was told by Wilpon.

Minaya, who's in his fifth season as the Mets' GM, said the conversation occurred "a couple of weeks ago."

Minaya said he told Wilpon: "Jeff, thank you for that vote. I don't think about those things, and Jerry [doesn't] either."

Minaya said he understood there would be talk about firings since the injury-ravaged Mets entered Monday five games under .500 (43-48) and nine games back of Philadelphia in the NL East.

The team with the second-highest payroll in the majors was expected to compete for a division title in the first year of their new ballpark.

"When you lose, people are going to come up with those things," Minaya said.

After the Mets defeated Washington 6-2, Manuel said that he enjoyed receiving the news from Wilpon.

"There was a conversation that did take place that was encouraging," Manuel said.

Manuel said Wilpon urged the team not to give up on the season.

The manager said he was told, "We're in this to the end."

Manuel became manager on June 18, 2008, replacing Willie Randolph. After last season, his contract was extended through 2010.

Manuel said he didn't change his lifestyle after talking with Wilpon.

"You don't go buy a new house," Manuel joked.

[fischfan13]

Wow so you seriously think the mets were headed for greatness until they lost pagan, ryan church ( whom they thought so poorly of that they traded him IN the division to the team they hate most???), ollie perez who really wasn't even hurt and never was, just his head is screwed up so he went to the disabled list instead of going to the bullpen, for 1 day, where manuel wanted him so he could straighten out and throw a strike or 2 per game.
What's the difference with losing those guys?

You Really thought delgado was going to be healthy all year?? He saved his life as a met by having an mvp 3 months from willie randolph firing day to august 30th, 2008.


You can't have things both ways, beltran had 250 or so atbats already (with little to no power) so you aren't missing 700 ab's of stellar greatness with him, so far it's been 27 games or so and I Seriously doubt a thigh bruise would keep out a real ballplayer like utley or jeter. Oh wait utley already played a half season thru a hip that needed surgery and still ended at .290 with 30 plus homers and 100 plus rbi's. hmmm and all better numbers than a fully healthy 2008 beltran. Yes I know they play diff positions and I also know that 1 player has heart and guts while the other is collecting his paycheck watching tv because his thigh hurts.

Reyes was hitting 270 or less when he got hurt and already the subject of trade rumors from the mets fan base.
delgado is lucky to have had a contract because I doubt that anyone else would have signed him had the mets not done so.

don't worry though, I have some good news for you.

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Laughable.

Did you ever read anywhere where I said that Pagan was the key to this team. His role was to be a backup. His role was to be the guy to give each OF a day off...never happened.
Ryan Church was traded in July...not April. In April he was penciled in as the everyday RF'er.
Delgado's contact was absolutely a no-brainer. Let me key you in...
He had a one year team-option...at only $10 million.
Reyes and trade rumors?
It's the NY media for Pete sakes....LOL.
Beltran...it's his knee, not his thigh.

Very laughable.

Later.

[Longstocking]

Who cares?

Your east coast teams all stink :p

I'm a Dodger fan :p #1 BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[YoungAquaticPhotos]

Bill just face it! The METS Suck and always will and Greyd is right! You just keep making excuses for a team that will win nothing! Just like you did the last two years when they choked! :lalala::lalala:

[YoungAquaticPhotos]

I'm a Dodger fan #1 BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe Bill should do that: switch teams? I see why you did because Baltimore really sucks! You gotta love front runners! Hurry up Bill the Yankees are now tied for first!:becky:

[greyd]

What's laughable is that you change your tune from post to post. Early in the thread you are praising the new mets and panning the phils, since all you mets fans 'know' that they only won because a, they were lucky, b, the mets let them, c, lidge had a career year and no one else on the team did anything.

You recently stated that once the mets backups to the injured players were also hurt, things were over. poor poor mets fans, only team in baseball to deal with injuries despite the phils injuries I pointed out and rollins playing so poorly it was actually more detrimental to the team than if he was on the dl.

If you or minaya think that church was a good choice as a starting right fielder while matt holliday, ibanez, andruw jones, garret anderson, bobby abreu, burrell, dunn (who now they seem to have some interest in) and manny were all out there for the taking, you are both wrong. They should have signed 1 or 2 of them and moved church to the 4th outfield player he actually is. He has potential to be a starter but needs to get straightened out at the plate and his gaffes on the field.

10 mil on delgado IS a no brainer. He is not worth it and it not just because it's easy to say that now that he is injured. For less money they could have had giambi who was unsigned forever until the a's gave him a low contract. I hope they sign delgado again for next year since he will be recovered and nice and fresh from not playing all year.

Your team need to dump minaya and manuel and figure out which of the 4 core every day guys are worth building around. They should build a team that suits their ballpark. The lack of power line is a joke as well since the yankees and phils go in there and pound out multiple homers per game and the mets go on the road and still hit none.

And as the perpetual crapola from mets fans that the phillies only have great power numbers because their park is a bandbox, as of today they have 65 homers at home and 64 on the road. They hit more homeruns in 1 week than the mets team hits in an entire month. Ibanez and howard have more homers on the road than at home. I'll leave you alone so you can enjoy the rest of the baseball season. Anything can happen, teams get cold, some hot after the all star break. Someone wake up Tom or is he waiting until the jets start?

[Longstocking]

Maybe Bill should do that: switch teams? I see why you did because Baltimore really sucks! You gotta love front runners! Hurry up Bill the Yankees are now tied for first!:Becky:


Front runner?

Switch teams? I have never been a Baltimore fan.

I've been going to Dodger stadium since the mid 80's with my Dad !!!

I grew up 25 min away from Dodger stadium until I was about 22-23. I saw Hershiser back in '88 during his consecutive inning shut out streak at several games.

My Dodgers have 5 world series since they moved to LA. More than your boys in pink :p

[AlishanAS]

I'm here. I just laugh at the jealousy Filly fans have over NY. The can't just feel good about their team. The have to bash anything NY. I guess being the dump that Filly is brings out that low rent attitude. Plus the arrogance of the fans whose team has won twice in 125 years of existence. Funny stuff.
I can understand Yankee fans arrogance with 26 championships, but Filly fans....puleeze.

[greyd]

Well at least we woke Tom up. I didn't think any of my posts were arrogant, just simply stating facts in what I thought was a thread for trash talking baseball. Appparently you thin skinned metsies fans can only accept facts, arrogance or statements from yankees or maybe even cardinals fans.

Enjoy your highest in the nl payroll team of 2009 and all the joys they bring you. Enjoy your team's 48th or so straight year Without having a league MVP and most likely no, no hitters. I hope those 2 ws titles and measly 5 1st place finishes are enough to last another 10 years for you guys and lets not leave out how few hall of famer mets players there are.

I'll enjoy the playoffs if my team makes it and wins the nl least for the 3rd straight year and the potential league mvp if pujols slows up a bit. I've lost track of how many phils have won that award including schmidt getting it 3 times. I'm not sure how he beat out kingman or dave magadan or kevin elster. I guess those years were fixed. Now this post was a bit arrogant:)

[AlishanAS]

Well at least we woke Tom up. I didn't think any of my posts were arrogant, just simply stating facts in what I thought was a thread for trash talking baseball. Appparently you thin skinned metsies fans can only accept facts, arrogance or statements from yankees or maybe even cardinals fans.

Enjoy your highest in the nl payroll team of 2009 and all the joys they bring you. Enjoy your team's 48th or so straight year Without having a league MVP and most likely no, no hitters. I hope those 2 ws titles and measly 5 1st place finishes are enough to last another 10 years for you guys and lets not leave out how few hall of famer mets players there are.

I'll enjoy the playoffs if my team makes it and wins the nl least for the 3rd straight year and the potential league mvp if pujols slows up a bit. I've lost track of how many phils have won that award including schmidt getting it 3 times. I'm not sure how he beat out kingman or dave magadan or kevin elster. I guess those years were fixed. Now this post was a bit arrogant:)

I don't really think about HOF players or no hitters or what ever. I feel sorry for people that have to trash others to get their jollies, fans of the losingest franchise in major league baseball history. And from the city with one championship in 103 major sport seasons.

And the Filthy fans almost booed Schmidt out of the city. Great way to treat your HOF player :no:

[YoungAquaticPhotos]

Stop living in the PAST all you NY fans! I root for the team not individual player stats! Where does that get you? Here's one for you: Howard fastest to 200 Homeruns ever! Where is that getting him?

[fischfan13]

Front runner?

Switch teams? I have never been a Baltimore fan.

I've been going to Dodger stadium since the mid 80's with my Dad !!!

I grew up 25 min away from Dodger stadium until I was about 22-23. I saw Hershiser back in '88 during his consecutive inning shut out streak at several games.

My Dodgers have 5 world series since they moved to LA. More than your boys in pink :p

Sarah, you lost him when you mentioned Orel Hershiser

And the Filthy fans almost booed Schmidt out of the city. Great way to treat your HOF player

Tommy, these Fillies fans believe that if Howard, Rollins and Utley ALL missed at least half the season that they would still have the same record and be in first place.

[joe_jaskot]

Yesterday, the pathetic Mets got shut out by Washington, the worst team in baseball. It doesn't look too good for Bill's Mets. Good thing football is coming soon. He can cheer for Miami, one of the worst teams in the NFL. LOL!

[fischfan13]

He can cheer for Miami, one of the worst teams in the NFL. LOL!

More misinformation.
Joe, when you have free time between playing Tetris and watching the Weather Channel, please tell everyone who won the AFC East last season with an 11-5 record.
<insert crickets>

[greyd]

So since you guys think the mets would have either been a 112 and 50 team or just won the division outright by 10 games barring injuries to 3 of your key star players......why is it that even during the first 20 to 30 or so games of the year with your team at 100% had they never once come back from a measly 2 run deficit in any game or been leading the division at the time? (please bear in mind that they had a losing record in april with the team at 100% minus wagner)

Prior to the injuries why hadn't they had a single sell out in the new ballpark that fans were clamoring for? Tix were too expensive for the city with some of the biggest corporations and salaries in the country? And I'm sure that you are not happy with the team as it's constructed so if you had been the gm what would you have done differently than omar had done? (or not done)

[YoungAquaticPhotos]

MET'S Who? No one catching the Phillie's now after that pickup!

[greyd]

MET'S Who? No one catching the Phillie's now after that pickup!

well just keep in mind 12-12-08 K Rod declares that the ny mets are the team to beat in the nl east!! I enjoyed his last 2 performances especially last nights championship achievement, 5 batters faced 2 hits 3 walks no outs and 5 runs given up.

[dbondi]

well just keep in mind 12-12-08 K Rod declares that the ny mets are the team to beat in the nl east!! I enjoyed his last 2 performances especially last nights championship achievement, 5 batters faced 2 hits 3 walks no outs and 5 runs given up.

that was great. Hows about a-rod with the clutch homerun last night ^.^

[fischfan13]

that was great. Hows about a-rod with the clutch homerun last night ^.^

Although I was rooting for the Bosox I absolutely enjoyed a great pitchers duel.
I watched from the 8th inning on, and I was impressed with the Yankees bullpen.

[fischfan13]

You can hate the Yankees as much as you want (and I do), but they are a classy organization...


This column appears in the Aug. 24 issue of ESPN The Magazine.


The team facing Yankees ace A.J. Burnett a few weeks back at Yankee Stadium has to go down as the oddest in baseball history.

For one thing, it plays only at night. The players have no choice. Even one minute of sunshine can kill them.

They're from Camp Sundown, in Craryville, N.Y., and they live life on the other side of the sun. All of them have the rare disease known as XP -- xeroderma pigmentosum. If kids with XP catch the slightest UV ray, they can and do develop cancerous tumors. Even fluorescent lights fry their skin like boiling oil. Most of them don't live to be 20.

So how could they take the field at Yankee Stadium? Because this was 3 a.m. Superstar right-handers should be tucked into bed by then, yet there was Burnett, throwing Wiffle-ball splitters and chasing down line drives.

There is no cure for XP. If you're born with it, you're one in a million. There are only 250 known cases in the U.S. Until Camp Sundown was founded 14 years ago by Caren and Dan Mahar, whose daughter Katie has the disease, few of these kids had met anyone else with XP. For most of them, Yankee Stadium was the first MLB ballpark they'd ever seen -- and probably it will be the last.

Getting here wasn't easy.

To make the seven-foot trip from the front door of Camp Sundown to the curtained bus with double-tinted windows that took them to Yankee Stadium, all the XPers had to wear hats, tinted eye shields, vats of sunblock, turtlenecks, long-sleeve shirts, long pants and gloves. Even with all that, they ran.

Because they couldn't leave until the sun was almost down, and because it was a three-hour drive, they knew they'd be able to see only the last couple of innings of the game. But then it rained, causing a more-than-two-hour rain delay. While the rest of the crowd cursed, the campers rejoiced. How lucky can you get? The bus arrived just before the first pitch. "It was almost like the game was waiting for them to show up," Yankees GM Brian Cashman said. "That kind of gave us goosebumps."

To get the kids out of the bus and into their VIP suite for the game, Yankees media-relations director Jason Zillo -- the man who dreamed up the whole night -- had to take them on a rat's route of back staircases and tunnels to avoid any fluorescent lights. After the Yankees beat the A's 6-3, the stadium lights had to be dimmed to 30 percent. Once they were, all the kids came running onto the field with smiles that could've lit up the Bronx.

"It's cool to be part of this," said Burnett, whom Zillo forced to leave at 3:15. "And it's kind of mind-boggling. I can't imagine if I couldn't take my children outside."

Eleven ghostly-pale XP campers took the field, including Yuxnier Beguebara, who is coming up on 71 operations, and Kevin Swinney, who has had over 200, and the rest of them, grinning through faces operated on so many times they seem to be covered in plastic. Feel sorry for them if you want, but they have one thing most kids will never have: For one night, the Yankees' field was theirs.

They high-fived Derek Jeter, ran madly around the bases and wallowed in the instant carnival the Yankees had set up -- from the magician to the bouncy castle to reliever Alfredo Aceves strolling the yard, strumming his guitar while Cashman sang the Police's "Message in a Bottle." For one night, at least, these kids found out they are not alone in being alone.

Not that they don't play baseball at Camp Sundown. They do -- at midnight, to the accompaniment of owls and bullfrogs -- against the local fire department. "We're pathetic," says Caren Mahar. "But we always play."

By 3:30, it was time to go, and there was no time to waste. They had to make it back to Camp Sundown before sunup. Welcome to life lived like a vampire.

On board the bus, Katie Mahar, 17, was whipped. Her hearing is down to 50 percent, and her vision is going fast, and her words are starting to lack vowels. But anybody could understand her as she kept saying, "That was a blast! What a blast!"

And I keep thinking of my friend Jason Zillo and the 14 years it took him to make this night happen.

"I saw one little girl," he said afterward, exhausted. "When the centerfield wall opened and the whole carnival started coming out -- she just started jumping up and down, over and over. She wouldn't stop, she was so excited. People wanted to thank me. But that's all I needed."

And you thought the warmest light came only from above.

http://a.espncdn.com/i/mag/blog/2009/0811reilly2.jpg

[fischfan13]

This Sunday will be a really hard day to deal with when the Mets play the Phillies. My son and I have always been huge Pedro Martinez fans. We made sure that we were at Shea when Pedro pitched his final game last season at the old ballpark. IMO the Mets dropped the ball by not bringing Pedro back. IMO the Phillies made a great move by signing him. IMO I might get choked up a bit seeing him on the mound at the New Shea no matter what uniform he is wearing.
On Sunday I will not be rooting for or against any team...but I will be rooting for one of my favorite ballplayers of all time...
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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4ow2Juu7nMo/SSLuHWInSuI/AAAAAAAAJg0/j1uYSkqWiRg/s400/Pedro-Martinez.jpg
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[YoungAquaticPhotos]

Updated pic for you Bill! I always like him when he pitched for the Met's. Hopefully he will pitch good enough to stay a fifth starter.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e325/YoungAquaticPhotos/martinez.jpg

[fischfan13]

An unassisted triple play to end the game...
Someone, PLEASE, end this season.:no:

[TwoTankAmin]

I do believe the last time an unassisted double play ended a game was in 1927.

Yanks already up 1-0 over Sox- Derek is da man.

[greyd]

I have mixed feelings about pedro being on the phillies that are far different than the ones you have with him being on the phillies. 1, I view him as a red sox or a met and I don't want either thing on the phillies. 2, he is washed up. He's only had minimal success in his 2 1/3rds starts because the phillies offense bailed him out. I think he is much older than 37 and I would think he'll be left off of the playoff roster or if he's on it he will be used in the bullpen. The mets did the right thing by not signing him in april for the 5 to 6 million he was insisting on getting. Livan gave you the same mileage for far less money and the end result is probably the same thing that would have happened if the mets had signed pedro in april.
The only good thing I can say about your mets is that they may have found an outfielder for 2010 in pagan and the francoeur trade was a good one. The bad news is you have manuel and minaya to lead your team in 2010 so there will be no playoffs in metsie-ville in 2010 either.

[fischfan13]

When will this season end?
Now news has it that Jeff Francoeur AND Johan Santana are hurt and will miss time. Francoeur has a torn ligament in his thumb and Santana has elbow discomfort. They join, Jose Reyes (out for the season), Carlos Delgado (out for the season), Carlos Beltran (should just stay out for the rest of the season), David Wright (should be back in a week or two...poor guy), John Maine (out for the season), JJ Putz (should be back in Sept), Fernando Nieve (out for the season), Johnathan Niese (out for the season), Alex Cora (surgery on BOTH thumbs...I grew up with guys who would do this stuff for free), Fernando Martinez (out for the season) and a few guys who I forgot about.
Back in the Winter I complained that this team needed starting pitching...for once I was right. Other than Santana (have I told you that he is hurt), no one has performed up to par. Oliver Perez was a panic move by Omar Minaya (Minaya is Spanish for overpaid GM who should have been fired last year). John Maine (remember him?) has been seen once on the past few months...that on the side of a milk container.
The proverbial "cleaning of the house" should be, but wont be, done with this team. No one should be back...and this definitely means anyone that has anything to do with the pitching corps...have I reminded you that I was right about how bad they were going to be.


As for the Phillies, can Cliff Lee carry the pitching staff?
The Cards, Dodgers and Giants can all pitch with the Phillies...and quite possibly better.

Could we talk about the Miami Dolphins Wildcat Offense---oops, wrong thread.:coz:

[phillyofish]

only time will tell.....
what's up with pulling the pitcher with 0-3 count and pedro at bat?
why the hatred?


GO Phils

[fischfan13]

It's official....Johan Santana will have surgery to remove bone chips from his elbow and Billy Wagner, mercifully, has been traded to the Red Sox.
I hope Jonathan Papelbon learns has to play nice with Wagner.:rainbow:

[fischfan13]

Being a glutton for punishment I am looking at getting tickets for this Sundays Mets game against the Cubs. My wife thinks that I am crazy to be driving on Labor Day Weekend. My feeling, who in their right mind will be driving to Queens to see the Mets. So off I go...looking for tickets. I want something decent, especially for my son who is always looking to sit in foul ball territory.
I click on Ebay...junk, and expensive at that.
I go to Stubhub (my favorite). Some reasonably priced tickets.
Lastly I go to the Mets website.
Now just in case you are not a huge baseball fan let me explain this:
The Mets have a brand new ballpark.
Their seating is ridiculously overpriced.
They cannot sellout.
They are in next to last place.
They are having their worst season since 1993.
Its easy economics...
You get the people in.
You sell the tickets at dirt cheap prices.
I'm good for at least $60-80 at the concession stands.
Instead, when I clicked onto the Mets website and asked for three of their best available tickets, this is what I got:

Ticket Purchases
CUBS - SEPTEMBER 6 on Sunday, September 6, 2009 at 1:10 pm at CITI FIELD
Price Type Price Level Level Section Row Seat(s) Qty Price Fee(s) Cost
REGULAR Delta Club Gold 100 19 8 3-5 3 450.00 15.00 1395.00

Sad.:no:

[YoungAquaticPhotos]

Come on Bill you can afford it! LOL!
I wouldn't even pay that to watch the Eagles my favorite team, let alone the injury plagued Met's!

[EMTBMIKE]

Baseball is no longer a family sport. A trip to the stadium should not cost more then $500 for the tickets and food included.

[greyd]

Makes you wonder what the metsies would charge for playoff tix. Then again that's not a problem for the 3rd straight year. Probably not going to be an issue in 2010 either with omar and jerry manuel at the helm. I'm hoping they will go in to next year saying we have a good team now that everyone is healthy for 2010 and throw realtively the same team out there.

[fischfan13]

Lets flashback to last October.
Mike Francesa of WFAN NYSportsradio said that the Mets core had to be taken apart. I said that this team needed three new starting pitchers.
I guess we were both right.

Phillies, Cards, Dodgers and Giants would make for great NL Playoff Baseball.

Hamels and Lee
Carpenter and Wainwright
The Dodgers bullpen
Lincecum and Cain