RSC C. Furcifer Magara [Archive]

Greenhacker

10-03-2009, 11:50 PM

I promised that I would try to upload some vids from our recent trip to RSC and sorry to say I've been slacking. Too many end of summer projects and bla bla bla... The files are huge, so I have to cut them up. I don't know what sound will come through, but there is no cool narriation, so I would just hit your mute button. This camera was just about fresh out of the box and I hadn't even looked at the buttons yet; let-a-lone the manual...

I will post more for each species now that I am getting a hang of the whimpy Sony software. I will try to post each species as it's own thread so things don't get to crazy.

C. Foai Magara

http://img40.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cfoaimagaranj.mp4

AlishanAS

10-04-2009, 12:00 AM

Very nice Eric. We even saw and heard the ghost of Sarah.......

zebra7

10-04-2009, 07:39 AM

Nice Video GreenHacker, thank you for sharing. The Magara in the video is a Furcifer, not Foai. Great looking fish !

triscuit

10-04-2009, 09:13 AM

Awww... nice self portraits, too! :becky:

Longstocking

10-04-2009, 09:30 AM

:lol: Very cool !

Eric... this is the fish we have been chatting about ;)

Very creepy as well ! ;)

Greenhacker

10-04-2009, 02:42 PM

Sorry, I tried to remove the sound, but the Sony software is !@#$!

I was wondering if it was foai or not, Konings' book seems to list it as such, so that's what I put.

I will be editing my original idea and making a new post for each species.

Thanks for checking it out!

Longstocking

10-04-2009, 02:45 PM

lol it's ok... I was just poking fun ;)

Doug and I were actually talking about Steve being over in Africa presently :)

zebra7

10-04-2009, 03:32 PM

I was sure they were Furcifer because I know where Doug's Magara came from. They are from a great line.

TorontoRaptorsFan

10-04-2009, 05:56 PM

Thank you for the video. I look forward to seeing more of them!

dunk

10-06-2009, 02:54 AM

very nice group there. i'm a huge fan of magara. here's a picture of my male.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3476/3400426880_765d39f454.jpg

Grizz

10-06-2009, 02:57 AM

Thats one striking fish. Love it.

emartin

10-06-2009, 03:13 AM

Nice pics and video!

Greenhacker

10-31-2009, 06:24 PM

Nice, I am hoping to start my featherfin collection this next month and Magara is what I am starting with. What size tank do you keep him in?

TorontoRaptorsFan

11-03-2009, 04:30 PM

The bigger the better. Usually 125 gallon and bigger work really well. Put a giat rock in the middle so a male can claim each half for pit building and sit back and enjoy. Adding some Cyprichromis for the upper part adds to the fun.

One of the best tanks I ever saw was a Cyprichromis Leptosoma Blue Flash/with Foai Kigoma setup and it was incredible. Male Kigomas were constantly flashing to the females. And overhead multiple Male Cyps were flashing each other.

Greenhacker

11-03-2009, 08:12 PM

I am going to be a bit short on length, but Doug at RSC breeds his in a much smaller tank then a 125. I've got some cyp. micro. kilila from him when I was up there for the top half. I've heard that cyps help to bring out the best in Furcifers, so I'm glad to hear you agree.

TorontoRaptorsFan

11-05-2009, 12:07 AM

Tito

11-05-2009, 09:15 PM

Doug will even admit that he wishes he had bigger tanks for his Featherfin/Cyp setups. He's said it numerous times to me. Like you I also have a colony of Kilila.

Mike Reilly who is one of the best breeders in the cichlid hobby said he always had his best luck breeding Featherfins is really LARGE tanks like 8-10' long! But to each their own.

I've had my best success breeding Cyprichromis in smaller tanks others say you need large tanks. Personally with Foai species I've always done best in 6' + tanks.

8' and 10' tank - honestly - that puts a sting on the hobby. I mean - really - who can put something like that in a their home. Perhaps you mean this at a professional level with a sophisticated breeding program. Surely you can't be giving this advice to the average fish keeper.

TorontoRaptorsFan

11-05-2009, 10:41 PM

A sting on the hobby? Personally I applaud any hobbyist who loves this hobby but seriously unless you're planning on running a breeding business like Reserve Stock or SI Cichlids who seriously has the time to maintain 20+ tanks, have a career, and be able to spend time with a family? I personally would rather see more hobbyists follow the example of the Europeans where many of them have 1 or 2 large tanks but are exquisitely decorated and become showpieces.

Flareside

11-06-2009, 12:21 PM

thats a loaded question. Would be a good topic for discussion in its own thread for sure

Greenhacker

11-06-2009, 12:38 PM

Well I don't know if it's going to happen now anyway... The ones I was going to get fell through due to the loss if the dominate male. I am thinking of getting some from Doug, but I'm guess you can't sex them at 1.25". Anyone have experience with this...

zebra7

11-06-2009, 08:18 PM

GreenHacker, it's true that Foai/Furcifer tend to do better in tank's 6ft. or bigger, but that's not alway's the case. Especially when you are working with tank raised fish, they adapt much better to their living quarter's. There are many variable's when it come's to keeping, and spawning Featherfin's. I will tell you there is no " Absolute " way of keeping them. Every group is different, no two are alike. Some male's are wicked, some will tolerate other's in their vicinity. Anyone who tell's you different is not familiar with keeping these fish. My advice to you is purchase a group of 8-10 juvie's and raise them in your tank. As your group grow's your question's will be answered, pay close attention to them, and you'll figure out what work's best for them to prosper. Good luck with your decision. Anthony

Greenhacker

11-06-2009, 09:14 PM

Thanks for the advice. Maybe it worked out for the best because I was going to get a group of 5 adults. I've got an email in to Doug, but it looks like he only has 6 left, so we'll see. Maybe it's not meant to happen right now.

Greenhacker

11-11-2009, 12:48 PM

Well it's official, I am getting a group of 8 juv. Magara from RSC. He didn't have them listed for the group buy, but he had some that he thought would be ready by the time the shipment comes in. I'm pretty stoked, but know it's going to be a while before they look anything like the adult beauties they will become.

fischfan13

11-11-2009, 01:03 PM

Congrats, E!
I'll make sure that I handle your shipment with "kid-gloves".:becky:

Greenhacker

11-11-2009, 09:12 PM

Thanks! I can see it now... they'll be singing all water leads to the sea and trying to role down the street in their bag. LOL

Greenhacker

11-18-2009, 11:01 AM

So I'm getting my Magara on Friday, but I'm not sure where to put them. I usually don't like to add new fish to a huge tank. They'll be 1.5" or less, and their home will be my 110 that has cyps, paracyps, and similus in it right now. I could put them in a 25 tall for a week or two, but wasn't sure if it was necessary.

Thanks for any advice.

TorontoRaptorsFan

11-18-2009, 04:32 PM

They should be fine in that 110 gallon. They'll grow quickly.

Does anyone have any good pics of the Furcifer Magara because the only one I can find is on Tom's Tanganyikan site.

Longstocking

11-18-2009, 04:48 PM

This is the best I have... and it's not that good lol...

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/Longstocking/Malemagara.jpg

Eric... it's up to you. it's a chance you run by adding them to a tank full of fish. Since Doug's tanks are individually filtered I would think your risk is low since they are fry that he has raised but it is always a risk.

They would do fine for a week or two in the 25 gallon.

Greenhacker

11-18-2009, 06:41 PM

Your killing me! How long will it take for them to show color. My Cyp. Kilila are taking forever, so I hope they do better.

Longstocking

11-18-2009, 06:43 PM

Probably about a year + ... your kilila will take longer :lol:

Greenhacker

11-18-2009, 07:08 PM

Your a mean mean woman... LOL

Longstocking

11-18-2009, 07:13 PM

:lol:

I still have mine... and the four are doing fine. Figures :lol:

Still.... better for you to have a larger group since this is your first go with them.

Greenhacker

11-18-2009, 08:47 PM

I suppose, but with the size tank I have you pretty much have the perfect number I need. Oh hummm

TorontoRaptorsFan

11-18-2009, 10:05 PM

Micros take forever to color up. My Kiriza are just starting to now. Thanks again for filming Doug's Kilila. The dominant male looked incredible!

Greenhacker

11-21-2009, 06:48 PM

Well I am the happy owner of 7 silver fish... I got 8, but one committed suicide over night and I only found it by totally take apart my filter. :no: I only spoke in 4 lettered words for about an hour, but I'm almost civil again now. They are eating and living it up in their new home.

TorontoRaptorsFan

11-22-2009, 10:11 AM

I can't wait to see what they'll look like once they're fully grown.

I've got some Foai Chisanse coming in. I've seen a couple of pics of them from Rich B at duboisi.com. So I'm really curious to see what the end result will be.