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misterted
01-24-2012, 10:35 PM
Can Enantiopus kilesa be kept in a 40 Breeder?

Thinking of dabbling.

m1ke715m
01-24-2012, 10:59 PM
id think alone they'd be fine

fischfan13
01-24-2012, 11:16 PM
Can Enantiopus kilesa be kept in a 40 Breeder?

Thinking of dabbling.

Ted I've never kept them, so I would leave the definite answer to those who are veterans of keeping and breeding Kilesa, but I was told that a 4' minimum is necessary for 1 male, with 75g being the minimum for a breeding group of at least 2 males.

Afreakin
01-25-2012, 12:28 AM
Fine IMO.

I've done it and have had successful spawns.

fischfan13
01-25-2012, 12:31 AM
Fine IMO.

I've done it and have had successful spawns.


Pfffft, like you've kept Tangs before? :whistle::neener:

zebra7
01-25-2012, 06:13 AM
I agree with Rob, your tank size will be fine Ted. Melanogenys is a Xeno. that does well together in groups. Males rarely do damage to each other, constant dispalying , and peaceful interaction, makes this species a plus to work with. Good luck with them.

Longstocking
01-25-2012, 09:27 AM
I agree with Bill :neener: 4 foot min for the long run... meaning keeping them for many years when adults.

fishboy
01-25-2012, 09:42 AM
i kept mine in a 50 breeder w no issues (8 total)

Afreakin
01-25-2012, 09:42 AM
50/50 we need a few more replies. LOL 8)

Afreakin
01-25-2012, 09:43 AM
Same time on the post Greg 8)

misterted
01-25-2012, 11:07 AM
:confused3:

cichfrk
01-25-2012, 01:41 PM
Can Enantiopus kilesa be kept in a 40 Breeder?
It depends on how many are you planning to keep in a 40B. I have 13 in a standard 55g and doing just fine but I'm planning to move them to 75g. I have 30+ fry in the tumblers and 1 female soon to be stripped. :runnningaround:

gregga
01-25-2012, 02:56 PM
I have 9 adults in a 6.5 ft long tank. Harmony abounds, just no breeding. of course, I have 7 males.:sad-smiley-002:

m1ke715m
01-25-2012, 03:14 PM
butch from ams told me that once they start breeding you only have about a year of breeding time that once they get older/bigger they dont breed anymore..

Afreakin
01-25-2012, 06:15 PM
Tangs are weird, this is my saying, and I'm sure many will agree "Some things that work for some don't work for others and some things that people say won't work, do work." Be sensible and try it out. If you only have a 40 breeder, start with a small group and see what happens. There are many ways to skin a cat, sorry for the cliche.

fishboy
01-25-2012, 07:52 PM
lol.. i saw that

misterted
01-25-2012, 07:55 PM
My thinking was to pick up 6 juveniles and to see where it takes me.
These particular fish seem interesting to me.
So it sounds like I should give it a try.

But you all agree I should begin with juveniles?

zebra7
01-25-2012, 08:45 PM
Start with 10-12 juvies Ted. If you are investing the time to grow them out, make it worth your while. This way after a year you won't be looking for male's or females to add to your group. You can also choose the ratio you would like to work with, especially if you don't have the spare room. I had 3M ( 6in. ) and 4F in a 50 breeder. At the time it was only to be a holding tank until pick up. The buyer because of personal issue's needed me to hold onto them for some time. They did great in this set up to my surprise. In a month's time I had 100+ fry growing out from this group. I hated to see them go. IMO, Melanogenys are one of the best Xeno's to work with. Good luck with your decision

fishboy
01-26-2012, 02:32 PM
+1
i agree w ant.. grab a dozen since their juvies and cull out later on.. u dont wanna end up w 6 males or 6 fem so the more, the better ur chances r.. 40 breeder is a great growout size and u can pick out ur breeders when the time comes.. like i said, i had 8 adults in a 50 breeder w no issues and they bred just fine..

m1ke715m
01-26-2012, 03:51 PM
what would you guys say the optimal ratio is for breeding kilesa? i have 3m/6f and i was going to add another male.. good idea or bad idea? dont mean to hijack the thread the question is somewhat related since we are talking ratios

zebra7
01-26-2012, 05:09 PM
You have a great ratio Mike, just let them be. Plus, give them some tender loving care, :becky:

m1ke715m
01-26-2012, 11:01 PM
im swapping groups of cyps.. the wild caught karilani in there the male is psycho chasing everything around even the sumbus and the kilesa.. ima put the mtoto in there i think thats why the kilesa wouldnt hold to term.. they spawned a few times just didnt hold long.. thanx guys for the input